KS Gov Signs Law: Stops Govt From Using Public Money For Gun Control Lobbying

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    KS Gov Signs Law: Stops Govt From Using Public Money For Gun Control Lobbying

    Kansas Governor Sam Brownback, who signed into law the The Second Amendment Protection Act, which has been referred to as the strongest Second Amendment legislation in the nation, has gone a step further. Now Brownback has signed a bill into law that would prohibit any state employee, municipality or school district from using taxpayer dollars to lobby in support of or against gun control.

    Attorney General Eric Holder threatened Brownback by writing him a letter to inform him that The Second Amendment Protection Act was “unconstitutional,” stating “In purporting to override federal law and to criminalize the official acts of federal officers, S.B. 102 directly conflicts with federal law and is therefore unconstitutional.”

    Brownback simply replied, “With respect to any litigation, we will happily meet Mr. Holder in court.”

    I assume this latest legislation may garner a similar response from the Attorney General, who is now embroiled in several scandals including the snooping into reporters emails, Fast and Furious (including being in contempt of Congress due to the scandal) and a congressional investigation into whether or not he perjured himself.

    According to Guns.com:



    House Bill 2162, known colloquially in the state Legislature as the ‘NRA bill’ because of the gun lobby’s backing of the legislation, will take effect on July 1, 2013, and is seen by gun rights advocates as a way to further secure the Second Amendment rights of responsible gun owners in the Sunflower State.


    Upon signing the bill, the governor’s spokeswoman, Sherriene Jones-Sontag, released this statement, “Governor Brownback signed the bill because Kansans do not support spending taxpayer dollars on legislation limiting gun rights; Kansas is a strong pro-Second Amendment state.”

    In addition to banning the use of taxpayer dollars to hire lobbyists for gun control, local governments cannot create “publicity or propaganda” materials, such as “any kit, pamphlet, booklet, publication, electronic communication, radio, television or video presentation” related to gun control.

    While some argue that this comes close to violating the First Amendment rights of “cities and towns,” it becomes apparent that they have no idea that rights are granted to individuals, not government.

    In fact, whoever elected Mike Dever of Lawrence, Kansas, should seek a recall. Mayor Dever doesn’t like the State’s concealed carry law. In other words, he has a real problem with the Second Amendment. He told the Associated Press, “It kind of creates an interesting dilemma for local government agencies, when they feel strongly about something and have to be careful.”

    The problem is that these people want to use public money to push their agenda against the people. Individuals and businesses can still spend all the money they like to get their message out.

    “This is not a freedom of speech issue,” State Senator Jeff King, told the AP. “This is an issue of using taxpayer dollars.”

    Kansas seems to be headed in the right direction and the signing into law of HB 2162 is just another step.

    House Speaker Ray Merrick said, “”It goes along with a lot of good legislation that’s happening on Second Amendment rights.
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    Kansas: I am impressed!
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    Well, will I retire to Kansas or to Missouri? Time will tell, perhaps I'll declare dual citizenship, a Kansourian?

    It's a poser, that's for sure... Maybe a home in one state, and a time share in the other?

    Yeah, I got tapatalk, too. So what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Well, will I retire to Kansas or to Missouri? Time will tell, perhaps I'll declare dual citizenship, a Kansourian?

    It's a poser, that's for sure... Maybe a home in one state, and a time share in the other?
    Mr. Misoukansan? Kewl. I could do that.

    Pass on the tornadoes, though.

    Kudos to the Kansas citizens for pushing hard for such things.
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    Finally...An American Governor with Guts!!. Kudo`s!!.
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    it becomes apparent that they have no idea that rights are granted to individuals, not government.
    Beautiful.
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    In addition to banning the use of taxpayer dollars to hire lobbyists for gun control, local governments cannot create “publicity or propaganda” materials, such as “any kit, pamphlet, booklet, publication, electronic communication, radio, television or video presentation” related to gun control.

    While some argue that this comes close to violating the First Amendment rights of “cities and towns,” it becomes apparent that they have no idea that rights are granted to individuals, not government.

    In fact, whoever elected Mike Dever of Lawrence, Kansas, should seek a recall. Mayor Dever doesn’t like the State’s concealed carry law. In other words, he has a real problem with the Second Amendment. He told the Associated Press, “It kind of creates an interesting dilemma for local government agencies, when they feel strongly about something and have to be careful.”
    Yes, it does create a bit of a dilemma for destroyers: determine whether you're going to seek to destroy the liberties of the citizenry who hired your sorry butt, or get the hell out. Easy answer: toe the line, or you are going to own your actions and be held strictly accountable, criminally so. Exactly as it should be.

    IMO, it should be redefined to be crimes against the Constitution. But that's just me. Still, not a bad effort. Whatever else can be said, it's a step in the right direction, toward holding these liberty-haters accountable for their attempted destruction. Damn straight.

    Way to go, Kansans. Lighting the way back to freedom, with a light for all to see.
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    Sounds like the next time I go to Kansas, I need to step off my grandparent's cattle ranch and see if I may like to live there.
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    Way to go, Kansas! When you think about it, how does it make sense to allow the use of our tax dollars against our constitutional rights? I predict more states will take the issue to this next level. What state house is going to be next to put their legislation where their mouths are? Any predictions?

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    the State Chamber of Commerce, cannot now use taxpayer money ..... to do their campaign for local rule of areas where people can carry, and other changes in the CC and OC laws they want. Too bad, soooo sad.
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