An inside look at the Anti-Gun, Anti-Freedom, movement. The article is long. I didn't need to read the entire thing to see how these anti-gun nuts fail to understand gun control makes citizens less safe; not more safe. This is ignorance squared and while I find ignorance on a local level impossible to fight; this is on a national level. They found their money man in nanny Bloomberg. A rich but quite insane person to be sure but that just makes him more dangerous. This Is How the NRA Ends A bigger, richer, meaner gun-control movement has arrived
Your thoughts? Can we beat back this onslaught from the deranged anti-gunners?
I am not convinced that the facts support the article. "Gun ownership is declining" is a good case in point. I really don't see gun ownership declining in the US. Maybe I am missing it, but that article seemed more like a puff piece by one of Bloomingturd's minions than a fact filled expose.
I have to agree with you on that. I think it is kind of ironic that the administration we have in office has voiced their wish for more gun control and it has caused the public to purchase firearms and ammo at what probably is a record rate. I believe the American citizens are much better armed than what they were a year ago.
The antis keep repeating the same lies. They have been found out. This type of article is a regurgitation of there agenda that the American people are not buying.
Edit to add: OP do not be surprised if this gets shut down or moved. I has nothing to do with self defense....
For those of you who missed this, click on the link below as this is how the Anti's as well as those who want to subvert the Consititution are doing it via the mush brained lemur we are rasing/educating to become the leaders of our nation!
For those of you who missed this, click on the link below as this is how the Anti's as well as those who want to subvert the Consititution are doing it via the mush brained lemur we are rasing/educating to become the leaders of our nation!
I would hazard the guess your post was moderated by a Mod. Better that your post get moderated or deleted by a Mod than receive an Infraction.
And that's all I got to say about that:blink:
I only got through half of the article but what I read was bad.
On the one hand, it states that the NRA doesn't have any real power any more. On the other, it blames the NRA for its hold over politicians. Which is it?
I don't think the gun control movement is making any real headway in most of the country. What we had was a very emotional topic for a lot of people (much like 9/11) for a short period of time after Sandy Hook. It shocked a lot of people, but people have short memories and don't care about what doesn't personally affect them (in the long run). Those who were sitting the fence are still sitting the fence. Those who were anti or pro are more passionate about it. There are a lot of fence sitters that took a temporary position one way or the other. But, if gun control or 2A rights wasn't a major part of someones political ideology before Sandy Hook, it probably won't be that different in the next elections after the shock has been gone for a while.
The problem with liberalism is that it is emotion-driven. That leads to a lot of bad choices, but it is also harder to sustain, since you have to keep feeding those emotions in order to get the desired result. Those who didn't give two shakes about gun rights before Sandy Hook but became suddenly anti will be back on the fence until the next emotional agitation on the subject. The left will need to make sure those emotions are properly stoked come election time to get those people back into the ring.
What I think that articles like this really expose is the ignorance of what the NRA really is. There's a reason why it can do what it does: the 3 million+ members donate money to the cause. There are people who are supporting the NRA. They aren't some rogue organization that is acting apart from any sort of support or against the wishes of those who support it.
The NRA is bigger than it has ever been, gun sales have recently reached all-time highs, and Bloomberg just spent a chunk of change on lame ads which accomplished nothing. The article is a conglomeration of half-truth, outright fiction, magical thinking, confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance.
This made me think of the parent that was at sandyhook the day of the shooting and hid in the meeting room.....i guess she wanted to save up her anger and rightous indignation for the media blitz after it was over.These people want to pass a law put it on file and stick their heads back up their.....in the sand ,return to condition white till the next atrocity.They have the audacity to pretend that gun owners are the ones that are carless about life.I wish i could be suprised.
But then something unexpected happened. Some of the senators who’d voted “no” faced furious voters back home. Even before Erica Lafferty, the daughter of murdered Sandy Hook Elementary principal Dawn Hochsprung..........
There was no need to read past that sentence, early in the article. It's already a very dishonest comment..... when it doesn't happen to mention that she was being paid by Bloomberg to go around to cause disturbances, use "get in your face" tactics at any Congressional Reps public appearance who were in what Bloomberg determined might be "vulnerable" and went on the attack of them. What BS... from the start, and total lack of honesty..... so no need to read any further to know where this was going..........
Lies, more lies, and more lies..... with no credibility at all.
I just read the article, and feel stupider for having done so. There's an obvious point they're missing: the leap from "this thing done with guns that was bad" to "we need to remove guns." Even background checks can't be rationalized with Sandy Hook, the shooter stole his weapons from a person who would have passed any reasonable check. Yet these folks believe that the emotional reaction is enough to overcome the obvious logical problems with their approach.
It isn't. That's why they're so excited about getting donations from 50,000 people, when the NRA has 4,000,000 paying members. The NRA is, simply, right, and the gun-control advocates wrong.
I disagree with a number of its points, it's bases for justifications. In some cases, it's hard to separate the opinions of those being reported on from the reporter's opinions, opinion piece that it really is. That's a real weak spot.
Sadly, a a piece it seems clearly to be just another description of the gun control movement's movements. It's not pro-gun, even pro-liberty. It's pro-control.
Those who own guns are typically VERY adamant about their gun rights. Those opposed to guns see the issue simply as one of many items on their agenda and gun control is rarely the top one. Facts are: Gun ownership is increasing, applications for LTCs are at an all time high, and gun owners are organizing and funding against radical gun control groups. The real problem, as I see it, is that because gun legislation is largely a state-by-state issue (for good or ill) in states such as mine (MA), NY, NJ, CT, Maryland, and Colorado; there are sufficient anti-gun populations to vote in ridiculous legislation despite the facts. So while many of you will continue to enjoy full 2a rights, others (like me) are facing an uphill battle. I just hope that those of you in gun friendly states will not leave your fellow citizens in the lurch and work to preserve gun rights in ALL states even though today it may not impact you directly. It may be your problem some day too.
Btw, I've been meaning to comment on this for a couple of years, but not sure where to do so. I like my avatar except I wish my eagle displayed a stronger index finger. Any graphic artists out there that can change that? :smile:
If only every citizen became adamant about liberty in general, we'd be on firmer ground overall ... on the 2A and every other eviscerated, watered-down and altogether sidestepped liberty on the block. If only.
Hence, the critical importance of education of our youth, obliterating the liberty-hating agendas of our public schools, erasing the liberty-hating portrayals at all levels of government paid for by citizens' funds, ...
Gun sales decline ???????? Well tell my neighborhood that. Matter of fact my neighbors next door just showed me a matching pair of H&K .40 pistols a couple of weeks ago they bought as their first guns ever. I know I was thinking the same thing. What I get so tired of in this anti-gun movement are the signs all of the sheeple hold up...."Million Mom March 4 Gun Control". Damn what the hell aren't they marching about lately on the coasts. What will the signs say next week "Million Mom March 4 Free Breast Implants" since they can't get gravity outlawed. Dam right this stuff pi$$es me off.
hmmmm. Since we're the ones WITH the guns, is this supposed to frighten us? :image035:
I'd say they are about five years too late. Gun control might have been plausible right before Obama was
elected in 2008 and set off five years of gun buying mania like I've never seen in my life time.
Gun Control? Yeah, sure. We already got 'em you bunch of freaking tree hugging clowns.
As my Grandfather would say...."No need to go close the barn door, the horses are already out".
More of MY FRIENDS are buying weapons ,,,, especially pistols for their homes,,,,
several have asked for my opinions & recommendations in the years since the
Obama crowd has TAKEN OVER.
All of this kind of stuff is just propaganda. The Obama administration is using guns to boost their own standards. He was elected by entitlement minded idiots who want the government to run their lives and it just so happens that guns are an emotional backing for keeping these people in his good graces. The rest of the anti-gun politicians as well as the media are simply following his lead. And as an added bonus, keeping the sheeple focused on guns and how they are "fighting for the children" helps lessen the questions about things like this NSA business and the way he is needing to change his leaders over and over due to scandals. But oh wait! He's fighting guns so all that other stuff is not important. Politicians and their media are the best magicians on God's green earth.
The NRA exists because of its safety and training programs and because they fight for something that actually shouldn't even need fighting for. A plethora of events and education for young and old that stresses safety and responsibility and the members who still believe that these are important. The NRA exists because of its members and is a formidable opponent due to its numbers. Although not all gun owners are NRA members, it's probably fair to say that all NRA members are gun owners and feel the organization is worthy of contribution. The NRA IS its members so good luck with that.
My opinion of the left including Bloomie, BARRY Obama, Crazy uncle Joe, Nance and Dianne Frankenstein is that they would love to take every gun
line us up, then use them on us. Call me paranoid, but Everything they have been doing and saying points to this scenario. The Left Isn't About PEACE, LOVE, COMPASSION..... They are about CONTROL.
Repeating delusional wishful thinking over and over again still doesn't make it true. I don't think anyone is buying it either, not even the anti-gun libs. Too much evidence otherwise.
I think this is the point, from the article, that the Anti-gun establishment doesn't "get":
"There’s no point messing with the National Rifle Association (NRA). And that, many assumed, was the last we’d be hearing about gun reform."
The NRA is made up of citizens...us, not just some group who like guns and have money. The NRA has money because millions of members support it and what it stands for. The members are the Anti's neighbors, coworkers, family and fellow citizens.
They seem to have a disconnect where the NRA is concerned. That's why the bill was defeated...because enough politicians listened to their constitutents...not the NRA. The NRA is a reflection of millions of Americans...not an entity that stands alone.
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