Proposed restriction on RKBA in VA

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    Proposed restriction on RKBA in VA

    This is an uncredited news snippet from The Gun Guys, an anti gun group. Since 2 LEOs were gunned down OUTSIDE their Police station, the Fairfax County PD and Board of Supervisors want VA's laws rewritten to prihibit CCW INSIDE Police stations.

    I don't have a whole lot of heartburn over this, but the rationale is killing me!
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    Stung by the shooting deaths of two officers outside a western Fairfax County police station in May, county officials want to push the Virginia General Assembly to ban the carrying of guns into law enforcement buildings by anyone other than authorized personnel.

    State law bans weapons in courthouses. But the absence of any prohibition on weapons inside police stations or jails places officers at risk, county officials say. At the request of Fairfax County Police Chief David M. Rohrer, the Board of Supervisors has included a ban in a draft of its legislative program for the 2007 Virginia General Assembly.

    The county has made numerous attempts to keep firearms out of government buildings, only to see the initiatives languish in a state legislature loath to restrict the rights of gun owners. But the issue has gained new urgency since the May 8 shootings at the Sully District station in Chantilly.

    Michael W. Kennedy, a mentally ill 18-year-old, drove to the rear parking lot of the station and fired more than 70 shots with an assault rifle and other weapons. Detective Vicky O. Armel, 40, died that day, along with Kennedy. Officer Michael E. Garbarino, 53, died of his wounds nine days later.
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    Board of Supervisors Braddock 703-425-9300
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    Board of Supervisors Dranesville 703-356-0551
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    Board of Supervisors Hunter Mill 703-478-0283
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    Board of Supervisors Lee 703-971-6262
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    Board of Supervisors Mason 703-256-7717
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    Board of Supervisors Mount Vernon 703-780-7518
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    Board of Supervisors Providence 703-560-6946
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    Board of Supervisors Springfield 703-451-8873
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    ... Fairfax County PD and Board of Supervisors want VA's laws rewritten to prihibit CCW INSIDE Police stations.
    ... [an]18-year-old, drove to the rear parking lot of the station and fired more than 70 shots with an assault rifle and other weapons.
    The criminal committed a crime, ignoring all existing paper laws; one more law saying he couldn't possess a firearm there wouldn't have altered his ability to commit the act. Rationale: weak.
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    I'm scratching my head over this one too. You really can't say it's because of a unrelenting slew of police station shootings all across Virginia. It was one incident, involving a mentally disturbed boy. To be honest, I'm not really broken up over this one, since I've only been to the police station once (for business purposes) in my life. However, I'm upset over the principal and the logic behind it. A sign on the front door is not a shield, and at all places, I thought they would have known that.

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    I remember when this happened. Yeah, the guy who shot everyone sat outside in his car. Why would banning CCW's in police stations have made a difference, ASSUMING the guy would have followed the "rules"?

    There's quite a few reasons I'm glad I went West. IIRC, it's a Class 5 felony to discharge a firearm inside Fairfax County for any reason... is this a correct memory of mine?
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    Thumbs down

    Maybe instead of banning carrying guns, they should make killing police illegal. That woud really stop this kind of stuff from happening and make the police much safer.

    Oh..Wait, ummm.. killing police is already illegal? Oh,...um, well, I guess someone should have told the shooter.

    Duhhh...

    When are these people going to figure out that if a person is willing to commit murder, then a silly gun law isn't going to phase them one bit? This is another example of the stupidity which seems to be more common than what we used to call common sense. In fact, common sense is currently a misnomer, as it is now typically uncommon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtD View Post
    This is another example of the stupidity which seems to be more common than what we used to call common sense. In fact, common sense is currently a misnomer, as it is now typically uncommon.
    This is a modification to a quote you're probably familiar of:
    "Common sense is not a common virtue."

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