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Quinn To Use Amendatory 'Powers' To Make Changes To Concealed Carry Law

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The antis simply will not ever give up. And I dont see the Federal government marching troops into illinois to enforce SCOTUS decision as some of the Federally minded folks seem to think they have the nerve to do to over ride a state.
 
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Good to read the backlash from the democratic Senator in the article. Here's hoping any "amendments" are quickly shot down and we can pass the current awful bill so we can start chipping away at the infringements already written in to it.
 
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He'll probably do it against all the legal advice he receives and then spend $millions in court only to lose more of the state's money again.
 
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Another Bloomberg Tool ...

Illinois: Governor Abuses Amendatory Veto Powers to Propose Semi-Auto Ban

Posted on August 1, 2012

Gov. Quinn uses a previously NRA-Backed Ammunition Purchase Reform Bill as Vehicle for Gun Ban

Yesterday, Illinois Governor Pat Quinn (D) vetoed the NRA-backed ammunition purchase reform bill, Senate Bill 681, after this common sense legislation had passed with overwhelming bipartisan support in the Illinois legislature (previously reported on here). In a crass attempt to exploit the recent tragedy in Colorado and seek media attention, Quinn used his Amendatory Veto powers in a foolhardy attempt to impose more draconian gun control in Illinois. Quinn rewrote the entire bill as an amendment to the Illinois Criminal Code that includes an onerous ban on the manufacture, possession, delivery or sale of commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms (inaccurately referred to as “assault weapons”), .50 caliber rifles and cartridges and “high capacity” magazines in Illinois. Quinn’s amendment additionally tramples on the rights of Illinois citizens by creating a de facto statewide registration scheme for currently-owned firearms and magazines.

If this amendment is accepted by the Illinois General Assembly, law-abiding citizens in Illinois will be subjected to restrictions far beyond the scope of even the misguided Clinton Federal “Assault Weapons“ Ban that expired in 2004 and any other in existence in the country today. The repercussions of such a gun ban would be disastrous. As demonstrated by the failure of the assault weapon ban of 1994-2004 to produce the crime-reducing results proponents claimed it would, Quinn’s ban would do nothing to increase safety in Illinois and would only further restrict the rights of already law-abiding citizens throughout the state.

Using the well-worn anti-gun tactic of confusion, by conflating certain popular semi-automatic firearms with machine guns by using the term “assault weapon,” this legislation targets many of the most popular guns used for hunting and competition, as well as many models and magazines (those that hold more than ten rounds) used for self-defense. Banned items would include many familiar and popular firearms, such as:

Turkey hunting shotguns with pistol grips, like the Benelli Super Black Eagle II;
Plinking and target rifles with thumbhole stocks, as often seen on customized Ruger 10/22s;
High-power target rifles -- even including the 1994-2004 versions of rifles like the M1A and AR-15 that were made to comply with the now-expired federal ban -- because all of those rifles had handguards that “encircle” the barrel;
Any detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle with even a partial handguard, potentially including common hunting rifles like the popular Remington 740/7400 series, Browning BAR, and many more like them.

This gun ban would even apply to the individual parts themselves (stocks, pistol grips, handguards, folding or telescoping stocks, etc). Possession, manufacture, delivery or sale of any of these items would be a felony.

Worse yet, this amended bill would impose a massive statewide gun registration scheme. Anyone who already possesses one of the banned guns or parts would have to provide proof of ownership and register each one with the State Police within ninety days of the effective date. This registration requirement spans from the firearm itself to individual parts and magazines that fall under the ban.

Governor Quinn and his band of anti-gun Chicago politicians would like to see their vicious attack on the Second Amendment play out across Illinois, even as Chicago—with the state’s most restrictive gun laws—is on track to tally more than 500 murders this year.

The repercussions of such a gun ban would actually be just the opposite of what proponents claim and the results would be disastrous. Firearms manufacturing is estimated to be a $250 million dollar industry in Illinois. Not only would this gun ban be devastating to law-abiding citizens in Illinois, it also would wreak havoc on an entire industry, killing jobs and driving a healthy contributor to the Illinois economy out of state. This legislation in no way promotes the safety or well-being of Illinois citizens, but is merely another attempt by gun-hating Chicago politicians to use misinformation to push draconian gun bans that will only affect gun owners, sportsmen and law-abiding citizens concerned about self-defense.

Your Action Is Needed! The Illinois General Assembly will reconvene on August 17th for their special session, and could vote on the Governor's amendment to Senate Bill 681. Contact your state legislators TODAY and demand they oppose the Governor’s gun ban!


This is older info from 2012 ...obviously not his first shot at his Super Amendatory Powers .....See a repeating theme here ?
 
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The idiot has one of the highest murder rates in the nation and one of the lowest gun crime conviction rates but wants to restrict the right of the citizens to protect themselves. Where are his recommendations on reducing gang violence/murders in the state that has been a major problem for the past 100 plus years.

The governor appears to have been a nice man in the past but has been corrupted by his own sense of being all knowing as are most democraps.

As some say it would turn the state into the wild, wild west. I agree that it could for a short while and only until the bad guys learn that they are not the only ones with guns.
 
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Of Illinois' last seven governors, four have ended up going to prison. They are:

_Rod Blagojevich – Governor from 2002 through 2009, when he became the first Illinois governor in history to be impeached. Convicted of numerous corruption charges in 2011, including allegations that he tried to sell or trade President Barack Obama's old Senate seat.

_ George Ryan – Governor from 1999 through 2003. After leaving office, was convicted of racketeering for actions as governor and secretary of state. In November 2007, began serving a 6 1/2 year sentence in federal prison.

_ Dan Walker – Governor from 1973-1977. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud and other charges in 1987 related to his business activities after leaving office. Spent about a year and a half in federal prison.

_ Otto Kerner – Governor from 1961-1968. Resigned to become judge, then was convicted of bribery related to his tenure as governor. Sentenced to three years in prison.
 
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I just read this article this morning and what parts he vetoed. It seems like the legislature, with enough votes, can overturn his veto, and expect to?
Yes, here's how it works:

1) The legislature can do nothing or fail to get enough votes to override or pass. The bill dies like any other vetoed bill.
2) The legislature can override the veto and pass the bill as is with a 60% vote
3) The legislature can accept the governor's amendments and pass the bill with a 50%+1 vote.
 
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I hope for the sake of the law abiding citizens of IL the state legislature backup their words and the citizens get some chance of legally carrying a firearm. I am somewhat concerned over the comments of the AG, sounds like she may be on her own agenda and it my not be what's best for the gun owner.
 
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