Ohio HB231 Changes Concealed Carry Laws, Duty To Inform

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    Ohio HB231 Changes Concealed Carry Laws, Duty To Inform

    Quite a few changes to existing concealed carry law in this proposed law. Changes duty to inform language, where you can carry and some penalty language.

    Proposed Ohio Gun Law HB231 - American Gun Owners Alliance

    Law Text: http://amgoa.org/gun-law-texts/Ohio/...013-07-11.html
    An Informed Gun Owner Is An Anti-Gunners Worst Nightmare - Stay Informed @ American Gun Owners Alliance

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    I'm not really up on legal wording, but it seems like it's reverting back to a no-go on carrying in places that serve alcohol? Unless I'm totally confused on what a D class permit is(which is very possible).

    Also looks like churches don't need express permission anymore, and day care centers are no longer off limits as long as they're not marked?

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    That is the most confusing mumbo-jumbo I've read in a while.
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    Glad I'm not the only one who thought so! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshJ10 View Post
    I'm not really up on legal wording, but it seems like it's reverting back to a no-go on carrying in places that serve alcohol? Unless I'm totally confused on what a D class permit is(which is very possible).

    Also looks like churches don't need express permission anymore, and day care centers are no longer off limits as long as they're not marked?
    The second two appear to be correct, but I can't find any change to the text that would indicate a change relating to 'Class D' establishments. Can you clarify?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice View Post
    The second two appear to be correct, but I can't find any change to the text that would indicate a change relating to 'Class D' establishments. Can you clarify?

    " (4) Any premises or open air arena for which a D permit has
    been issued under Chapter 4303. of the Revised Code if the
    licensee's carrying the concealed handgun is in violation of
    section 2923.121 of the Revised Code; "

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshJ10 View Post
    " (4) Any premises or open air arena for which a D permit has
    been issued under Chapter 4303. of the Revised Code if the
    licensee's carrying the concealed handgun is in violation of
    section 2923.121 of the Revised Code; "
    Found the section you're referring to (lines 408-411), and it has not changed from the existing law. Notice that said section is neither underlined (added) nor struck through (deleted).

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    That paragraph just sounded like it prohibits carrying in places that sell alcohol. I thought that was allowed in OH?

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    Is it any surprise that we are hearing more and more about politicians not reading what is proposed in a given bill? I probably wouldn't want to read some crap as confusing as this either. Whatever happened to good old plain English?
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    First of all, hello! Belated, I know.

    I've read through the bill and what I see as potential significant changes to current OH CC law are that one would be able to carry at:
    • public areas of a police station / sheriff's office / highway patrol station
    • public, non-secured areas of an airport
    • college campuses with permission
    • churches
    • day care centers
    • aircraft (?!)
    • state government buildings

    I don't see any changes to duty to inform language or carrying at Class D establishments. (To answer the earlier question, you can carry at places that serve alcohol as long as you donít drink.)

    Standard disclaimers apply.
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    Im lost too whatever did happen to plain english

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    I was lost after the 14th: If the person is stopped for a law enforcement purpose ..........

    Right now it is a proposed bill and has no effect on carriers. Hopefully your state grassroots organization will weed through the BS and put out what the bill is actually trying to change and if it is good or bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredg53 View Post
    Im lost too whatever did happen to plain english
    They intentionally write laws this way, for no other reason than to ensnare as many people as possible...

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    Kermit's analysis is correct.

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