HR2910 - Gun Violence Prevention and Reduction Act of 2013

HR2910 - Gun Violence Prevention and Reduction Act of 2013

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    HR2910 - Gun Violence Prevention and Reduction Act of 2013

    The text of HR2910 is in, didn't want to post the law until we saw it. The bill (if passed) would outlaw the advertising and sale of any parts kit that falls under their definitions of an 'assault weapon' ...

    What they have done is throw this into a massive bill that is 90% about mental health care. They have also added language at the end to say 'nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize any type of advocating gun control' (paraphrasing) hoping it would appease pro gun representatives.

    Proposed Federal Gun Legislation HB2910 - American Gun Owners Alliance
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    And people wonder why the important bills never pass.
    Partially is because of crap like this.

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    Good Idea!!!! Because Parts kits, receiver blanks, are directly linked to criminals, which is related to a childs safety! FAIL BOAT! I never like to say I "HATE" a person, but these people are starting to get there with this crap.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 View Post
    Good Idea!!!! Because Parts kits, receiver blanks, are directly linked to criminals, which is related to a childs safety! FAIL BOAT! I never like to say I "HATE" a person, but these people are starting to get there with this crap.....
    You know where this nonsense is coming from right? The supposed 'information' that the Colorado theater shooting bought parts and assembled his AR from them, thereby 'skirting' a background check. You and I know that's BS because the receiver would have required a background check but the media has played it up that he didn't go through one.
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    To start with the title of the bill is all wrong and misleading, there aint no such critter as “gun violence”. A firearm is an inanimate object incapable of action on its own. A truer title would be “Preventing the Criminal Misuse of Firearms” but that would not fit the total ban wanted ruling elites.
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    Suggest everyone go to POPVOX.com & vote against this HR2910.

    While you are there suggest you vote in favor of: H.R. 2959: Concealed Carry Reciprocity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigPapa226 View Post
    Suggest everyone go to POPVOX.com & vote against this HR2910.

    While you are there suggest you vote in favor of: H.R. 2959: Concealed Carry Reciprocity.
    I voted against HR2910 but I also and hope that most of you will vote against the National carry reciprocity bill.

    All that will do is put the Feds fingers deeper into a pie they have no business meddling in at all. Keep it with the states. At least we have a chance of kicking the thugs out of office at the state level. National Reciprocity is just another trick by the Feds to gain a little more illegal power to infringe on 2A in the long run. Dont be misled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
    I voted against HR2910 but I also and hope that most of you will vote against the National carry reciprocity bill.

    All that will do is put the Feds fingers deeper into a pie they have no business meddling in at all. Keep it with the states. At least we have a chance of kicking the thugs out of office at the state level. National Reciprocity is just another trick by the Feds to gain a little more illegal power to infringe on 2A in the long run. Dont be misled.
    Putting national reciprocy in federal control would be one of the worst mistakes that could possibly happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CIBMike View Post
    Putting national reciprocy in federal control would be one of the worst mistakes that could possibly happen.
    Mike it appears we are in the minority according to the little pie chart thing. It amazes me that those who will vote down every gun reg almost across the board will drink the National Reciprocity kool aid so blindly.

    If folks would think for a moment what that entails instead of knee jerking Oh joy we can carry everywhere when its an obvious lie that will last about six months before the hammer falls they would squash it.

    Just on the surface. Why pray tell would a government bent on disarmament for over 100 years stick that little pro gun sounding gem in there??? HUmmmmm???

    Because just like the ICC once they get their mitts in what the states now control they have done in one move all they need to accomplish anything they want as far as gun regulations. Better get over there and vote that down folks cuz if it passes all our other pro gun fights have been in vain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
    I voted against HR2910 but I also and hope that most of you will vote against the National carry reciprocity bill.

    All that will do is put the Feds fingers deeper into a pie they have no business meddling in at all. Keep it with the states. At least we have a chance of kicking the thugs out of office at the state level. National Reciprocity is just another trick by the Feds to gain a little more illegal power to infringe on 2A in the long run. Dont be misled.
    Have you actually read the text? It basically says that if you have a CC permit from your state you can carry in any state. Very much like your drivers license. What is wrong with that?

    The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act
    H.R. 2959: To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry concealed firearms in the State.

    Link: https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/...m_medium=email

    Scroll down to "Bill Text".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigPapa226 View Post
    Have you actually read the text? It basically says that if you have a CC permit from your state you can carry in any state. Very much like your drivers license. What is wrong with that?

    The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act
    H.R. 2959: To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry concealed firearms in the State.

    Link: https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/...m_medium=email

    Scroll down to "Bill Text".

    Sadly too many people don't actually "read" the bills.

    Like you said, it has NOTHING to do with the Federal Government, it's NOT a "Federal CCW". It would just make reciprocity national if you hold a valid CCW from your state of residence. I for one would welcome this, that way I'd not have to go get a Utah non-resident and a Nevada non-resident to cover the states (in which I'll travel to) that my Florida resident CCW doesn't cover.

    I'd rather carry a single "permit/license/etc" than 3+.

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    I read the bill. It doesnt matter what it says in it though. It in any form simply adds another area where the Feds successfully grab gun regulating power over the states. Neither of which should have any in the first place but if as it has historically been the case fighting anti gun idiots on a state level is easier than on a Fed level.

    Just for kicks think for a second. This bill give the Fed powers to force states to accept CCL from other states.
    How long do you think it will be before the Feds use that newly coughed up authority to pick some mass shooting and do the reverse? At very least regulating that no state can honor another states licence or worse reducing every state to the level of say NY across the board.

    This is a big big wolf in sheeps clothing that for once if ccl carriers cant recognize, I hope elected officials that support the Constitution and the 2A can and ignore the cries from our own to drink the feds cool aid.

    If its being passed by Congress it by definition IS a Federal law. I know a lot are going to support this, and I seldom make a prediction on stuff like this but this I will.
    Let this pass, in three years come back and tell those of us who can see this for what it is how wonderful it is when your limited to 7 rounds in what was your gun friendly state and you cant carry across your own state line to ANY other state. Cuz that is where this winds up. At best. No question about it.
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    If it is in federal control it will not matter .The federal government can AMEND it at will, destroy it and reduce it to nothing.If national reciprocy can be accomplished between the states without federal involvement I would be all for it.Under federal control any national carry law would be wide open to and under constant attack by the antis.Every effort would be made by the antis to use it against us.
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