2A - We are 'so' Screwed! UN Gun Treaty again - PAY ATTENTION! Ammoland article.....

2A - We are 'so' Screwed! UN Gun Treaty again - PAY ATTENTION! Ammoland article.....

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    2A - We are 'so' Screwed! UN Gun Treaty again - PAY ATTENTION! Ammoland article.....

    Real Title of Article: Obama Will Sign UN Gun Treaty While Congress Is On Vacation
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    Monday, August 12, 2013

    ......This is very strategic timing considering Congress is on a 5 week vacation lasting thru the month of August!

    My Comments: If you have never had the intestitutional fortitude to reach out and tell your 'elected' official what you care about, this might just be the time to do so! 'They' are going to back door your rights out of your 2A rights! Prove me incorrect, I dare you. Heck, I double dog dare you on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

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    My elected officials play golf with Obama. The only things I can reach out and do would probably land me a date in Guantonimo. Although, Ive always wanted to try that waterboarding all the kids are ranting about these days.

    Anyways joking aside, Im speechless. I mean what is there left to be said!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyTangoFox View Post
    My elected officials play golf with Obama. The only things I can reach out and do would probably land me a date in Guantonimo. Although, Ive always wanted to try that waterboarding all the kids are ranting about these days.

    Anyways joking aside, Im speechless. I mean what is there left to be said!?
    For those of us that have been through SERE School and some other training, water boarding ain't crap! Bring it on!

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    He can sign it whenever he likes, it's still got to pass a 2/3 vote of the Senate. They didn't get close to that on the most recent gun bills, no way for an international treaty. Still gonna call though. All he'll accomplish is cement the left's true goals in the minds of the undecided - and even closer to the next election cycle.

    ETA: Also, don't know what signing it when Congress is not in session accomplishes - he could have signed it anytime since 6/3 for the same effect. Additionally, I clicked the link to send faxes to all Senators "at their home fax numbers" and was sent to a page to "donate" $29 to send the faxes - smells an awful lot like a bunch of hype to rile people up for $$$$.

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    It's unfortunate the left is a direction instead of a description of an action -- cuz it'd sure be nice if they really left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedrgr21 View Post
    He can sign it whenever he likes, it's still got to pass a 2/3 vote of the Senate. They didn't get close to that on the most recent gun bills, no way for an international treaty. Still gonna call though. All he'll accomplish is cement the left's true goals in the minds of the undecided - and even closer to the next election cycle.

    ETA: Also, don't know what signing it when Congress is not in session accomplishes - he could have signed it anytime since 6/3 for the same effect. Additionally, I clicked the link to send faxes to all Senators "at their home fax numbers" and was sent to a page to "donate" $29 to send the faxes - smells an awful lot like a bunch of hype to rile people up for $$$$.
    I'm not very good st conspiracy theories, but I know the people who threaten to cut our oil production own stock in oil dependent industries like plastics. Could they not also raise capital from their opponents by stirring our emotions about 2A?
    In my frustration about M&P magazines, I saw that SW stock has risen steadily this past 8months.
    If the the left is only good at one thing it might be good at keeping us emotional.
    That being said we do need to contact our congressmen and remind them who the work for... AMERICAN citizens and not foreigners !!!
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    Come on guys, the agenda here is pretty clear. The Law Enforcement types want to keep the criminals and disarm the LAC. Why? It's simple. Without crime, with citizens who can self-defend who would be OUT OF A J.O.B.??

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    Just in (my twitter account):

    http://triblive.com/mobile/4401654-9...abolish-rights

    It not just the POTUS, it's the media too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedrgr21 View Post
    He can sign it whenever he likes, it's still got to pass a 2/3 vote of the Senate. They didn't get close to that on the most recent gun bills, no way for an international treaty. Still gonna call though. All he'll accomplish is cement the left's true goals in the minds of the undecided - and even closer to the next election cycle.

    ETA: Also, don't know what signing it when Congress is not in session accomplishes - he could have signed it anytime since 6/3 for the same effect. Additionally, I clicked the link to send faxes to all Senators "at their home fax numbers" and was sent to a page to "donate" $29 to send the faxes - smells an awful lot like a bunch of hype to rile people up for $$$$.
    They are not far from getting two-thirds of the senate ...
    46 Senators Willing To Subjugate 2nd Amendment To U.N. Doctrine


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    My 2nd grade math puts the Senate support (46 votes) below 1/2. That seems closer to 33 than to the 67 needed. Ammoland is selling something. That's fine. We just need to be just as discriminating with pro gun sources as with anti gunners. The "timing" of this is irrelevant.

    That doesn't mean we should become complacent, just realistic. My senators will always vote for this kind of stuff, but I keep writing them.

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    So what if he signs it. There are two very important things to remember about treaties. First, they must be ratified by the Senate by a 2/3rds vote, not going to happen. Second, the US Constitution trumps ALL treaties.

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    I'm not stressing about it. If not this than something else. There are provisions in the constitution for scenarios like this.
    3/4's of the states have the authority to over ride any thing the POTUS or Congress does outside of the scope of their respected granted powers.
    Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.

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    Surprised? Did you think they would stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I'm not stressing about it. If not this than something else. There are provisions in the constitution for scenarios like this.
    3/4's of the states have the authority to over ride any thing the POTUS or Congress does outside of the scope of their respected granted powers.
    Oh come on. Where's the Chicken Little in you? Get on the team.
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