GUN VICTORY IN OHIO: CCW Improvement Bill On The Way To The Governor - (merged)

This is a discussion on GUN VICTORY IN OHIO: CCW Improvement Bill On The Way To The Governor - (merged) within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 Has this passed yet? It passed the Senate and House. We now await on our POS Gov. to do something. His ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 View Post
    Has this passed yet?
    It passed the Senate and House. We now await on our POS Gov. to do something. His clock is ticking.



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    How long does he have to act on it? If he doesn't sign, does it automatically become law after a certain number of days?...

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    It can sit on his desk for 10 days not including sundays, if he does not sign/veto it during those 10 days, it becomes law and will go into effect 90 days afterwards. If he signs it, it takes 90 days to go into effect.
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    From todays NRA-ILA

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    Taft Veto Awaits Carry-Law Revisions

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    The promise of a veto by Gov. Bob Taft was not enough to stop the Ohio legislature from passing a revised Right-to-Carry bill that would eliminate Columbus` semi-auto gun ban. But unlike some bills that Republicans hope to pass before they could be blocked by Democratic Gov.-elect Ted Strickland, this one is more acceptable to Strickland than to Taft.

    http://www.columbusdispatch.com/news...p?story=229950
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    Yes, Taft's major complaint is the preemption part, way back when he was elected he ran on a pro-CCW platform, and then as soon as he was elected he turned his back on Ohio firearm owners. With him if it wasn't preemption it would be something else. I like Mayor Coleman trying to talk about enhancing public safety, while the city of Columbus has lost a lot of money due to his AWB, and crime is up all over the city during his tenure
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    somebody has stopped drinking Kool-aid...
    The plain sight law is pretty stupid...
    Hope it passes.

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    I can't imagine the circumstances under which something like that was passed. It should have been elementary for anyone debating this bill prior to its passage to make anyone arguing for "plain sight" look like an abject moron. In a sane world, that stipulation would never have been discussed, much less approved. Someone was an idiot for bringing it up, and someone else failed to make the legislature and the electorate realize it.

    All they had to do was look around at the laws passed in any other state and see that no one was doing something so stupid; and they would have said to themselves, "Gee, this doesn't seem like something we should do. No one else is..."

    When it comes to this or any other common sense issue that surrounds CCW, we need to be VOCAL when proposed restrictions are idiotic. We can't afford to be afraid to shout about how stupid some people and their ideas are.

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    The vehicle plain sight requirement was, as I understand it, added in at the request of the Ohio State Highway Patrol, and their Superintendent. It was meant to be an officer safety thing, along with the duty to inform an officer during any official contact.
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    Yes, but anybody with half an ounce of brains or more could have laid bare how inane it was to claim that a plain-sight requirement had an iota of utility at making officers safer. That's my point. Why weren't the stupid aspects of the requirement shouted down by thinking persons, or CCW advocates? If you make 'em look stupid enough for suggesting it, would they not back away from it? We are not vocal enough, and we are not willing enough to make people who are stupid look stupid, as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    We are not vocal enough, and we are not willing enough to make people who are stupid look stupid, as they should.
    Correction, the people of Ohio aren't vocal enough. We have very poor people in power in Ohio. Look at Taft's approval ratings on google. The corruption is terrible from Mayor Coleman to Governor Taft (coingate). This state should be kicked out of the Nation. I have been so fed up with the policies in this state that my wife and I are moving. We have one of the highest state taxes in the nation, crime is rampant (look at all the crime reports on this site, many are from Ohio), housing appreciation sucks, and the weather is terrible. 200 days of grey skies is not fun.

    Check out the beautiful place I live here:
    http://ohiogop.blogs.com/state_of_th...man/index.html

    The Mayor even was hush hush when school officials tried to cover up a rape of a mentally retarded girl!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEV View Post
    I read that Taft may veto that bill due to the local pre-emption exclusion part of it.?.
    Yep, that's his excuse this week...
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    HB347 status

    The Clerk's office has had HB 347 in enrolled form (Act form) ready for the Governor since Thursday. Taft's office has refused to call for it or pick it up, meaning they were less than forthcoming with the Associated Press, but we will leave that to the A.P. to take up with the Governor's Office. This delay so far has been done as a matter of courtesy and custom. It is expected that the General Assembly will shortly force the issue by transmitting the Act to the Governor, with or without his request or pickup. This will start the 10 day veto clock, which excludes Sundays. We remain vigilant and working behind the scenes to get this Act through our obstructionist Governor's office, and ask that you remain supportive of the legislators who voted with us. It is not their fault Governor Taft continues to try and play games with your rights, leading to yet one or two more days where people are subjected to absurd plain sight provisions and baseless local ordinances.

    We continue to thank Speaker Husted and President Harris for their leadership, and encourage calls of support to your State Representative and Senator.

    This block will be updated as needed to keep everyone apprised on the status of HB347. The next important step will be the delivery to Governor Taft, and thus the starting of the 10 day clock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walther1 View Post
    This state should be kicked out of the Nation. I have been so fed up with the policies in this state that my wife and I are moving. <snip>

    We will soon call Florida home. Goodbye Ohio...forever!

    Dude, I live in Florida. I hate to have to tell you this, but you aren't coming to someplace that's a whole lot better, if at all.

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    Oppressive heat 7/8 of the year? Check

    The only things FL has going for it is the CCW laws (which are better than most or all, if you have to live in a state that requires a carry license at all) and the absence of a state income tax.

    Apart from that, this place SUCKS. Oh, well, if you skydive, it's pretty damned good because you can do that year 'round. So if you move here, take up skydiving!

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    http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.p...205-A1-02.html

    This ran in the Columbus Dispatch today concerning HB 347. Typical anti-gun scare tactics. Sounds like parts of Ohio, especially northern cities are like like Cali's (thats where most of the liberal live anyways.) Taft still doesnt have it on his desk, OH members, remember to call your state representative, senators, and the governor's office to voice your opinion on this issue.
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    We now have it confirmed that Taft's office finally picked up the Bill this afternoon, after he delayed for 6 days picking it up. The 10 day clock has now begun to tick, expiring on the 16th for Taft to do something.

    We continue to anticipate an override on his veto!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda View Post
    We now have it confirmed that Taft's office finally picked up the Bill this afternoon, after he delayed for 6 days picking it up. The 10 day clock has now begun to tick, expiring on the 16th for Taft to do something.

    We continue to anticipate an override on his veto!
    Good Luck on some sanity Ohio!
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