Seattle businesses start ‘gun free zones’

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    Seattle businesses start ‘gun free zones’

    Our idiotic mayor McGinn is at it once again, with a new/revised push for gun controls within the city.

    You can read the entire news story here,
    http://q13fox.com/news/stories/busin...#axzz2cVw5zC3z
    but I especially like the quote from the "Washington CeaseFire" guy:
    “When you take the gun out of the equation, whether it’s the home or any place else and arguments might end up as fisticuffs,” said CeaseFire board chairman Ralph Fascitelli. “But they’re not going to end up in violence.”
    No guns = no violence (of any kind), right?

    The article mentions "Thirty businesses have already signed on to the gun-free zone program"...but I could only find 28 listed on the Washington CeaseFire website:

    Barboza
    Big Marios
    Brenthaven
    Bus Stop Espresso
    Cafe Paloma
    Cafe Racer
    Century Ballroom
    Elliott Bay Books
    First United Methodist Church
    Fish Fry
    Freddy's Junior
    Havana
    Lindas
    Lost Lake
    Manhattan Seattle
    Moe Bar
    Neumo's
    Nube Green
    Oddfellows
    Office Nomads
    Quinn's
    Platinum Records
    Smith
    Southern Street Kids
    Sweatbox Yoga
    The Saint
    Totokaelo
    Zoe

    Additional info:
    Here's what Washington CeaseFire says about "handling this situation":
    "What do I do if a civilian enters my property with a gun?
    If you feel comfortable, you can ask if they saw your sign, but use your better judgment. In general, you should call the police. The property owner or a representative must be present to direct police to remove someone from the property."

    Call the police? I thought business owners had to ask the person to leave, and then IF the person refused, that person could be charged with trespassing? Call the police first, then the gun carrier leaves voluntarily and the police have been called for no good reason...wouldn't that be a waste of taxpayer's money?
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    If the afore mentioned businesses have declared themselves to be "gun free" zones, then your citizenry should declare them to be "revenue free" stores and no longer support them.
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    Gosh, I didn't know we had a communist gov't. in Seattle. Chipping away at our rights one step at a time. What do you suppose could happen if all the guns in Seattle (anywhere in USA) were gone? A page out of Hitler's playbook. Vote these commies out of office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    If the afore mentioned businesses have declared themselves to be "gun free" zones, then your citizenry should declare them to be "revenue free" stores and no longer support them.
    Gun Free = Revenue Free, now I like that. Might just make up some business cards with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Gun Free = Revenue Free, now I like that. Might just make up some business cards with that.
    Sounds like a good idea.

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    If they establish this, someone should track the number of crimes within these gun free zones. My guess is that over time the crime will increase but the pro GF zone idiots won't make the connection and will blame the crime rate on poor police work or some other ignorant excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Gun Free = Revenue Free, now I like that. Might just make up some business cards with that.
    There already are some good business-size cards with that kind of message on them...let me see if I can find the file, and I'll post it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight65 View Post
    If they establish this, someone should track the number of crimes within these gun free zones. My guess is that over time the crime will increase but the pro GF zone idiots won't make the connection and will blame the crime rate on poor police work or some other ignorant excuse.
    Get someone on the phone and put it in motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicT View Post
    There already are some good business-size cards with that kind of message on them...let me see if I can find the file, and I'll post it here.
    OK, you can find a bunch by searching "no guns no money" online, but here is one:

    no guns no money front.jpg
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    Not to be too ghoulish, but I cannot wait to laugh at these businesses after the get robbed since they are advertising the are defenseless. Get this list to the high crime areas so those more prone to committing crimes know where to strike in the future. Some have to learn the hard way.
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    well now i have a list of places not to go, gun free zones are very dangerous and being as i frequent seattle often ill know where to pass out cards :)

    the only traction this is going to get is from the liberal private business, and here in the state of WA, signs carry no weight of law, so they have to ask you to leave, and the fact that the state has the preemption law on the books, so mr mayor can only get private businesses on board, nothing else.
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    Its really disappointing to see one of the churches involved with this. Just stay out of it... please.

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    Good idea. That way there's no confusion about where to avoid. Let them post their "we don't want your money" zones.
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    I'd think for all such "posting" places a series of questions would be useful, to help them see the light. Perhaps such as this ... When robbers, murderers and other felons already break prohibitions against such things, how many criminals do you think follow signs that advertise nobody inside is likely to have any capacity of resisting them? Answer: many of them 'follow' such signs, right inside, 'cause they know darned well it's got better odds of making it out alive and successful.
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    can they garuantee theae areas to be crime free as well?
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