Money pours into Colo. to support Dems in gun vote recall

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    Money pours into Colo. to support Dems in gun vote recall

    Puget Sound, Portland libs backing Dems in Colorado recall

    The Colorado Springs Gazette yesterday published an interactive map that shows heavy contributions supporting two anti-gun Democrats targeted for recall in Colorado have been coming from the coast: California, the Portland region of Oregon, and heavily in the Puget Sound region of Washington.

    Puget Sound, Portland libs backing Dems in Colorado recall - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com

    And a lot of other places....the East Coast, Florida, upper Midwest around the Great Lakes states...

    The anti-gunners want to protect those seats and the gun grabbers who hold them
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    I dont see anything helping those who voted against 2nd amend. rights. Remember, its an off year election. Ie no presidential race.

    Heres how I see it going: Pro 2nd amendment voters will crawl over broken glass to get them, their families, and friends, to the polls.

    The folks that sort of support gun control, or dont care, will be in their moms basement, on the couch, eating cheetos, or whatever, watching dancing with the stars, and wondering when election day is.
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    The anti's will be just as motivated to protect those seats as the pro-gun types will be to take them away. In areas with more liberal leaning folks the entire exercise is a waste of money. You have to know how and where to pick your battles. Sure, some of these folks are going to lose- others will not. One thing that will remain are the ridiculous gun laws now on the books in Colorado. The pro-gun folks should have kept these people out of office in the first place. Once you let the cat out of the bag no amount of complaining and posturing will get it back in.
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    I noticed the other day that the garbage pit, DailyKos has set up for donations to support the antis in the recall. Except for the fact that it is only 4 days away, I would have suggested we do the same here. Perhaps that is something to consider in the future?

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    Here in Pueblo, Colorado (State Senator Angela Giron's district) early voting has started, with 11 polling places around town. Turn-out has been quite heavy with some polling stations experiencing long lines and long waits to vote. I fully expect the voter turn-out to exceed the number of votes cast in the last general election; people are actively engaged on this one.

    Pueblo is a steel mill town, heavily Democrat (roughly twice as many registered Democrats as Republicans, with about 30% registered as Independents). The local Democrat party has been very active in mobilizing voters and propagandizing against the recall initiative. Despite that, I think they are going to find that a lot of the local Democrats are much more conservative than the national Democrat Party might think, and the outcome of the vote will probably be very close at the finish.

    Regardless of the outcome of the election I expect the initiative to be very effective, sending a strong message to officeholders and candidates about what to expect when they start trampling on individual rights.

    Also, throughout the run-up to the election there have been many interesting revelations:

    1. While recall petitions were being circulated for signing the supporters of Ms. Giron were video'd blocking access, engaging in harassment, etc, resulting in the local police being called to restore order, then upon dispersing they were caught on tape receiving cash payments from a man (presumably the organizer of the mob).

    2. Ms. Giron loudly and repeatedly denounced the recall effort as having been funded and run by "outside interests", when in fact the entire effort was started and finished by two local brothers. Then it came out that Ms. Giron was receiving 6-figure contributions from Mr. Bloomberg and others on both the east and west coasts.

    3. Ms. Giron and her party did their best to move the entire issue into the courts, rather than just allowing the constitutional recall process to play out.

    4. Ms. Giron and her supporters have repeatedly tried to muddy the waters with claims that the entire thing was about her being Latina, and her being female, then started attacking the opposition candidate (retired police captain George Rivera, also Hispanic and a very dignified gentleman) as being pro-life and anti-abortion, etc.

    In short, anyone capable of rational thought can easily see the pattern of arrogance and deceit regularly used by left-leaning politicos seeking to acquire and maintain political power and influence.
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    These recall elections are as much about the new voting rules the Dems pushed through in Colorado when they took control as it is about 2A rights. Even most who live in CO are unaware of the new rules that will allow essentially anyone to vote (in any future election, not just these recall events) wherever, and as many times, as they want. The GOP has zero chance of reclaiming Colorado anytime soon.

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    Correct. The new voting laws permit anyone to register right up until the actual day of the election, and no longer requires residency, only a declaration of intent to reside in the precinct in which the vote is to be cast. Voter ID laws are still being vigorously fought against.

    In the next general election I look for chartered buses taking voters from precinct to precinct, voting again and again on declarations of "intent" to reside.

    I also expect voter identification requirements to be reduced to no more than a piece of mail with a name on it, rather than any form of positive ID.
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    When individual states like Colorado, evolve toward anti gun laws, it can ultimately affect all of us. Actually it's not just about Colorado, the warning signal is ultimately those Colorado voters elect anti gun congressional legislators that carry that same anti gun agenda, and success to congress, then the congressional votes tightens up and can affect all 50 states, with some sort of federal law we don't need.

    We have to stop this "anti gun disease" in its tracks so it doesn't spread, we must ALWAYS continue to work and support pro 2A. A good ole timey whooping at the polls would be the appropriate medicine right now. If we don't stop it in its tracks right now, it's gonna get harder and harder to do.

    BTW I know there are some great pro 2A voters in Colorado, it just needs to be more of y'all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveWorkman View Post
    Puget Sound, Portland libs backing Dems in Colorado recall

    The Colorado Springs Gazette yesterday published an interactive map that shows heavy contributions supporting two anti-gun Democrats targeted for recall in Colorado have been coming from the coast: California, the Portland region of Oregon, and heavily in the Puget Sound region of Washington.

    Puget Sound, Portland libs backing Dems in Colorado recall - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com

    And a lot of other places....the East Coast, Florida, upper Midwest around the Great Lakes states...

    The anti-gunners want to protect those seats and the gun grabbers who hold them
    Im thinking that maybe donations from outside the state should be illegal in the same way foreign donations are illegal. That is if it is a state office not a national office. Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormRhydr View Post
    I dont see anything helping those who voted against 2nd amend. rights. Remember, its an off year election. Ie no presidential race.

    Heres how I see it going: Pro 2nd amendment voters will crawl over broken glass to get them, their families, and friends, to the polls.

    The folks that sort of support gun control, or dont care, will be in their moms basement, on the couch, eating cheetos, or whatever, watching dancing with the stars, and wondering when election day is.
    I wouldnt take thatdor granted, after all king Dingleberry got elected twice. Jim
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    It'll come down to voters, in the end. Everybody focuses on the money, but campaign money only works on the suggestible. If there are enough suggestible to decide the outcome, then win or lose, at best it's a reprieve from one set of idiots while you wait for the next to screw something up.
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    We have the best government money can buy. Why the outrage over something that has always been a part of the process?
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    What happened in Colorado is what happens if your state starts getting people moving in from the Land Of Nuts and Fruitcakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostone1413 View Post
    What happened in Colorado is what happens if your state starts getting people moving in from the Land Of Nuts and Fruitcakes.
    I'm in the rust belt, the place the nuts and fruitcakes are moving out of.
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    So the liberals want to keep out of state money and influence out if it opposes them, but when it supports them it is OK.....typical.
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