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    Mo house overrides governor's veto

    This afternoon the Missouri House overrode Governor Nixon's veto of HB436. This is important legislation which lowers the concealed carry age to 19, makes open carry legal statewide, and makes it a misdemeanor for federal officials to infringe on Missourian's 2A rights. The bill now goes to the MO Senate where it needs 23 votes to become law. Republicans hold 24 seats in the Senate so were hopeful of victory!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJK View Post
    This afternoon the Missouri House overrode Governor Nixon's veto of HB436. This is important legislation which lowers the concealed carry age to 19, makes open carry legal statewide, and makes it a misdemeanor for federal officials to infringe on Missourian's 2A rights. The bill now goes to the MO Senate where it needs 23 votes to become law. Republicans hold 24 seats in the Senate so were hopeful of victory!
    This has been a long time in the making, especially the OC part. Good luck!


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    Good luck, we are rooting for MO.

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    Go MO!

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    They gotta get the Senate vote now. And The Brady Bunch is already prepared with their lawsuit against the state if it Nixon's veto gets overridden. The Brady bunch is crying about how this terrible bill will allow felons to buy machine guns and make all federal law null. They are so crazy that the Dem's just gotta love 'em.
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    Email, fax or call your Senator's office now.
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    Well it's dead. If you happen to have one of the two (R) Senators that voted with the Dems as your representative, be sure to remember them fondly during the next primaries.

    Missouri Gov. Nixon prevails on two key vetoes: tax cuts and gun bill are dead for this year - KansasCity.com
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    This section of the article really stokes my coals!!!


    After scuttling the Missouri bill, Dempsey and Richard both professed their devotion to the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, their love of hunting and their history of supporting pro-gun legislation.

    "However, I have reached a point where, in my view, political prudence and good public policy have parted ways, and I have been forced to pick which path I will follow," Dempsey, of St. Charles, said in a written explanation of his vote.

    "My love of the Second Amendment didn't trump my love of the First Amendment," he told reporters.

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    I seriously doubt the constitutional validity of the part about arresting federal employees in the performance of their duties, and suing local officials who do so. Were I a legislator, I wouldn't sign off on such legislation, either.
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    Seems like these two weren't watching the CO recall elections this week.

    In the end, the chamber’s Republican leaders — President Pro Tem Tom Dempsey and Majority Leader Ron Richard — joined with Democrats and voted against an override
    Read more here: Gov. Jay Nixon’s vetoes of tax cut and gun bills stand in Missouri - KansasCity.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I seriously doubt the constitutional validity of the part about arresting federal employees in the performance of their duties, and suing local officials who do so. Were I a legislator, I wouldn't sign off on such legislation, either.
    If it was easy to contravene federal regulation, don't you think the southern states would have done so in the 1960's. this whole MO move is political theater.
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    Sad part about our politics lately more theater and graft than public service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorBob View Post
    If it was easy to contravene federal regulation, don't you think the southern states would have done so in the 1960's. this whole MO move is political theater.
    This is true for the most part, and the part about interfering with federal officers would certainly go down to a constitutional challenge, but there are other provisions in this legislation besides that issue. At some point one of these "new" state 2nd amendment protection bills is going to have to take the SCOTUS ride and see just how much of our freedom we can win back with the current court, if any. The antis will NOT stop pushing until they have all of our guns locked up. We should not stop pushing either.

    So on some level, I think a little politcal theater is sometimes a good thing for the republic. If the two R legislators voted down on this due to concerns about the legality/constitutionality of the text, I am sympathetic to their point of view (if that's really the reason). However, the time to let those concerns stop the momentum of a good pushback against federal encroachment may not be now, with the powerful forces that are trying to abridge our constitutional freedoms. Just something to think about.
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    Part of the law would not withstand legal scrutiny. To be sure, and the part defying the Federal Government WOULD be struck down, but the rest of it would have stood, because the wording allowed for parts to be struck down without affecting the rest...

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