Teaching the "New Meaning" of the 2nd Amendment

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    Teaching the "New Meaning" of the 2nd Amendment

    This type of flat out lying annoys the hell out me.

    WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE HOW A HIGH SCHOOL TEXTBOOK SUMMARIZES THE RIGHTS GRANTED IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT
    Sep. 16, 2013 3:24pm Jason Howerton

    Controversy is brewing around a high school in Denton, Texas, that is using a United States history book that seems to summarize the Second Amendment inaccurately. And there are several other schools currently using the book.

    “The people have the right to keep and bear arms in a state militia,” the definition in the book, “United States History: Preparing for the Advanced Placement Examination,” which acts as a study guide for the Advanced Placement U.S. history test, reads.
    Wait Until You See How a High School Textbook Summarizes the Rights Guaranteed in the Second Amendment | TheBlaze.com


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    Upon further review of the book, authored by Dr. John Newman and Dr. John Schmalbach, TheBlaze also discovered a potentially controversial passage on the American Revolution. The text asks the question: “THE REVOLUTION—RADICAL OR CONSERVATIVE?”
    The authors call those who fought in the Revolutionary War “revolutionary mobs” and “American mobs.”
    “In comparing the three revolutions, a few historians have concentrated on the actions of revolutionary mobs, such as the American Sons of Liberty. Again there are two divergent interpretations: (1) the mobs in all three countries engaged in the same radical activities, and (2) the American mobs had a much easier time of it than the French and Russian mobs, who encountered ruthless repression by military authorities,” the text reads.
    The book also compares American Revolution fighters to the “guerrilla bands that fought in such countries as Cuba in the 1950s and Vietnam in the 1960s.”
    “While many applauded the Boston Tea Party as a justifiable defense of liberty, others thought the destruction of private property was far too radical,” the book reflects.
    Another key question yet to be answered is: If the textbook is indeed a study guide for the “advanced placement exam,” does the exam also reflect the book’s content?
    I've been reading more and more reports of these types of indoctrination manuals being used in schools all across the country.

    It is really scary that this garbage is being spoon-fed to the children as if this is the way things have always been. This really frustrates me. I view this as an attempt to overthrow the government from within through the creation of soldiers/operatives who unbeknownst to them, have been created so that they can be released into society in an effort to hopefully destroy the fundamental principles of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I consider this an act of treason.

    What are your thoughts on the subjects of this "new meaning of the 2nd amendment" and the use of these "indoctrination manuals" in schools across our country?
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    Parents, educators and editors all have a joint responsibility to filter out outright crap before it reaches children's hands and ears. Fail in one or more of those spots, and we get what we get.

    As parents, we each can be that final filter, though that takes the effort of (a) being educated enough to tell the difference when errors are found, and (b) having sufficient time to filter all such material. Few have both of those elements. Instead, we hire and rely upon others to a large extent to do that filtering for us. Trouble is, so many books come out, and so many editions over time, that it's an overwhelming task to correctly filter and evaluate each and every line of each and every book that ever gets published for use in schools. It's a tough problem.

    About the most that most parents can do, given realities of two-job households and the amount of time involved, is to take an active participation in the child's education, to speak openly with the child on all school subjects, to scan all the books once they're obtained, to be there for the child with any answers or to help. Better still, becoming involved with the book selection committees can bear some fruit, though that whole process can itself be a political morass that helps to defeat the purpose. Have had relatives and friends involved at this level, and it can work wonders, but it still doesn't catch everything, and it can have problems.
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    This type of brainwashing & indoctrination is one reason we began Homeschooling our children several years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Parents, educators and editors all have a joint responsibility to filter out outright crap before it reaches children's hands and ears. Fail in one or more of those spots, and we get what we get.

    As parents, we each can be that final filter, though that takes the effort of (a) being educated enough to tell the difference when errors are found, and (b) having sufficient time to filter all such material. Few have both of those elements. Instead, we hire and rely upon others to a large extent to do that filtering for us. Trouble is, so many books come out, and so many editions over time, that it's an overwhelming task to correctly filter and evaluate each and every line of each and every book that ever gets published for use in schools. It's a tough problem.

    About the most that most parents can do, given realities of two-job households and the amount of time involved, is to take an active participation in the child's education, to speak openly with the child on all school subjects, to scan all the books once they're obtained, to be there for the child with any answers or to help. Better still, becoming involved with the book selection committees can bear some fruit, though that whole process can itself be a political morass that helps to defeat the purpose. Have had relatives and friends involved at this level, and it can work wonders, but it still doesn't catch everything, and it can have problems.
    I guess we have to teach it to find out what's in it.

    If each and every line of the book is not reviewed and specifically approved for use in schools it shouldn't be used, period!<exclamation point
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    Yep, more indoctrination for the kiddies.

    Unless they read the actual document they will never know the difference and the bleeding heart Liberal pinkos will have brainwashed another batch of America's youth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    This type of brainwashing & indoctrination is one reason we began Homeschooling our children several years ago.
    Though, even with homeschooling, imagine how many individual tidbits are accepted by the mass of parents as well as students. Such as, in a heavily "progressive" community, the watered-down reading of the Constitution. Unless folks actually know enough to take exception to something, it'll get past many (or even most, if not all) of them.

    History's tough, though. The old adage about how history is written by the victors is important to remember. It colors how things are written, remembered, and ultimately passed down to future generations. I know that much of what I got spoon-fed to me via the textbooks and classroom instruction in grade school up through high school was pap, and I was able to identify much of it through additional investigation and supplemental reading on my own. (I've always been a skeptic, instead wanting to corroborate what I've read or had presented to me.)

    One thing I'm heavily for: homeschooling that involves a heavy participative aspect to it, in households where a parent can be free much or all of the time to assist the student(s), to participate in the learning process, and certainly to have sufficient time investment ahead of acquiring a given curriculum in order to adequately investigate it for quality.
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    I bought each one of my grand children copies of the actual Declaration of Independence and Constitution and I sat down with them and listened while they read it. When they asked questions, I answered them in the manner I imagined our founding fathers had in mind when the words were written, not some liberal jazz jive or modern short-hand speak.

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    Yes EVERYONE NEEDS to read the ORIGINAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunGeezer View Post
    I bought each one of my grand children copies of the actual Declaration of Independence and Constitution and I sat down with them and listened while they read it. When they asked questions, I answered them in the manner I imagined our founding fathers had in mind when the words were written, not some liberal jazz jive or modern short-hand speak.
    Should be required reading.

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    Yet some people can't see where the country is headed...another civil war. There is still time to stop it, to change the course, by getting out to vote, and getting family and friends to vote. Otherwise textbooks like these tell the chilling tale of what future America will look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    This type of brainwashing & indoctrination is one reason we began Homeschooling our children several years ago.
    I'm with you tcox4freedom. We started home schooling for the same reason and would never look back. My kids still go to school for sports and band class, but not as much doctrination going on there.
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    It's the age old BRAINWASHING game. I can picture a teacher asking their students whose mommy or daddy has a firearm. Then calling the THOUGHT POLICE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1MoreGoodGuy View Post
    What are your thoughts on the subjects of this "new meaning of the 2nd amendment" and the use of these "indoctrination manuals" in schools across our country?
    Molesting and redefining the 2nd amendment is merely the tip of the iceberg.

    This sort of indoctrination began quite some time ago as the liberals/socialist/progressives invaded our school systems. Their plan as it stands was/is quite brilliant; I don't agree with it yet it is brilliant as the libs knew a frontal assault would give their plan away..so; they invaded like a very slow moving cancer.

    One such attack was in the form of (environmentalism)..(i.e) The study of [EVERYTHING] in a global setting with even Mrs. Clinton being quoted "It takes a village to raise a child"

    "Outcome Based Education" ... "Pass/Fail" only ... The lowering of GPA averages to be accepted at what were once our best universities. ...The NTA and NEA lowering requirements in testing for new teachers if any at all!

    I could go on but I'm sure those who are 40+ years old fully understand this cancer that goes far beyond the 2nd amendment.

    We are all feeling and experiencing the fallout from this indoctrination with our current crop of leaders; attorneys, physicians, politicians who no longer have the ability to thing freely.

    Mr. McCarthy's methods may have been extreme; though most of what he was trying to accomplish was 100% correct with his assertions being right on the money in hindsight.
    The media in his day (already invaded by communist sympathizers) lambasted him causing him to fall from grace in the eyes of the American public, who were already unable to see clearly what was happening.
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    Barry and his Nazi anti-gun buddies are at it again. Big Brother wants to rule...I don`t think so!!.
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    Here is another one from a book being used in a South Carolina High School

    “The Second and Third Amendments — grant citizens the right to bear arms as members of a militia of citizen-soldiers and prevent the government from housing troops in private homes in peacetime.”

    You Won?t Believe What We Found in Another ?Widely Adopted? High School Textbook | TheBlaze.com
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