NATO Arms Treaty to be signed, possibly today

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    NATO Arms Treaty to be signed, possibly today

    Why is there so little media attention to this?

    Exclusive: Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty - diplomats | Reuters

    This is going to be really bad for all gun owners. It will create a long amount of paperwork for every gun owner.

    We best be contacting the Senators since the last vote on this before the signing only missed passing by four votes.
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    The other side has done a really good job of making anyone opposed to this to look like kooks and minimize the threat.

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    In the long run, this is great news for us. Each and every time the libs have supported any new gun legislation, they have been destroyed for it at the polls. Like many smokescreens of the past, this one has no teeth....the Senate absolutely will not ratify it. Obama/Kerry are going to sign it, they will line up their supporters for financial donations because they have done their bidding, and then the Senate will tell them to pound sand and not ratify it. The whole thing is political theatre; no one truly expects it to become law in the U.S.

    This is a good thing for us. Be happy.
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    If this gets signed the NRA should consider suit. Any treaty with foreign powers that defies the Supreme Law of the Land is illegal.

    If we signed a UN Speech Code Treaty, and could no longer criticize the government, as is the case in so many UN nations, it too would be illegal.
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    UN is not NATO.
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    "The arms treaty, which requires ratification by the Senate ..."

    There's not much we can do about POTUS and Kerry giving away our rights, embarrassing us on the international stage and making a mockery of our nation.

    But we can ensure that any politician that agrees to ratify their treasonous actions, will end their sleazy political career by doing so.
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    BTW, here's a quick petition that you can sign to help Rand Paul fight this:

    Help Rand Paul Defeat the UN Small Arms Treaty! - National Association for Gun Rights
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman45 View Post
    Why is there so little media attention to this?

    Exclusive: Secretary of State Kerry to sign Arms Trade Treaty - diplomats | Reuters

    This is going to be really bad for all gun owners. It will create a long amount of paperwork for every gun owner.

    We best be contacting the Senators since the last vote on this before the signing only missed passing by four votes.

    This isn't a NATO treaty, it's a UNITED NATIONS treaty.


    Kerry to sign UN Arms Treaty today; Inhofe says DOA in Senate

    Secretary of State John Kerry will reportedly sign the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, a document that Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) warned in a letter yesterday will not be ratified by the Senate, according to Fox News and the Daily Caller.

    Kerry to sign UN Arms Treaty; Inhofe says DOA in Senate - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com

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    Here's one from FOX. It's not NATO, its the United Nations treaty that Obama has promised to sign is spite of much opposition.


    Kerry to sign UN arms treaty, despite senators' opposition | Fox News

    The Control Arms Coalition, which includes hundreds of non-governmental organizations in more than 100 countries that promoted an Arms Trade Treaty, has said it expects many of the world's top arms exporters -- including Britain, Germany and France -- to sign alongside emerging exporters such as Brazil and Mexico. It said the United States is expected to sign later this year.
    the treaty covers battle tanks, armored combat vehicles, large-caliber artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles and missile launchers, and small arms and light weapons.
    Anyone care to guess what "small arms and light weapons" is?

    The treaty also prohibits the export of conventional arms if they could be used in attacks on civilians or civilian buildings such as schools and hospitals.
    There's your 'catch all". It basically means no imports from other countries.
    It's still got to be ratified by Congress. The same Congress that gave us Obama Care.

    As far as I'm concerned, anyone that signs it is guilty of treason and should be dealt with accordingly. Allowing a foreign entity dictate what we can or cannot own or to limit our rights in any way is unconstitutional.
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    We need to pack up the UN, this administration, and all their czars and ship the whole cluster to europe.
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    the UN. The first blue helmet I see in my hood I'll the blue helmet outta the
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    We need to pack up the UN, this administration, and all their czars and ship the whole cluster to europe.
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    Hmph... Yeah... according to the OP's article, by having the US sign it, it will put more pressure on Russia and China to sign it...

    Yeah, riiiiiiight. They'll certainly sign it if we do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Hmph... Yeah... according to the OP's article, by having the US sign it, it will put more pressure on Russia and China to sign it...

    Yeah, riiiiiiight. They'll certainly sign it if we do!

    Balderflop!
    They might sign it, but they will only adhere to it as long as it is in their national interests.

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