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    Hopefully the right place for this

    Found this on another website and thought it was worth posting here.

    Every American must ask their local, state and federal politicians which of the following states they believe and who said them:

    1. ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State”

    2. "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have
    sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any
    who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

    3. “Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of
    creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us
    have been totally disarmed.”

    4. "Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self
    defense."

    5. "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."

    1. Heinrich Himmler
    2. George Washington
    3. Sarah Brady
    4. John Adams:
    5. George Mason



    Any surprises here?
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    None at all. All those statements are true BTW. Three of those people simply considered telling the truth a virtue, a matter of personal honor, and to tell lies was a grave sin, and two of them are admittedly consummate liars. One because his collectivist ideology requires it, and the other because she was consumed by a single issue by which she came to define all things. Both those people are quite sad and deserve our pity..., but not our quarter.
    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." C.S. Lewis

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    Well said Jaeger
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    That comment was never made by Sarah Brady. I'm not sure about the others, but I have my doubts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 91wm6 View Post
    That comment was never made by Sarah Brady. I'm not sure about the others, but I have my doubts...
    According to online sources (it's Sara not Sarah). Sara Brady Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, said it in print to Senator Howard Metzenbaum
    The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadgerJ View Post
    According to online sources (it's Sara not Sarah). Sara Brady Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, said it in print to Senator Howard Metzenbaum
    The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.
    If she really said it in print don't you think the article would be available online? I'd love to find out it's true, but I just don't think it is. The anti-gun folks constantly use lies and misdirection to further their agenda, I'd like to think we wouldn't knowingly do the same.
    ETA- Have a look at this
    http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html
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    If Sara Brady didn't say it, someone Washington did!
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    Whether she actually said it or not, you know she believes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadgerJ View Post
    According to online sources (it's Sara not Sarah). Sara Brady Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, said it in print to Senator Howard Metzenbaum
    The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.
    You can beleive it all ya want and cite references from bogus sources all you want. Try to find out if there is even something called the "The National Educator" and then pull the from the source.

    In academic writing I never ever uses a source unless it is verified....and this bogus quote has yet been verified by anyone that is reputable.
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    And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

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    Here's a link to consider: Sara Brady quote

    I like the words in the title: "How NOT to protect our gun rights"
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    I'm in favor of gun control -- I think every citizen should have control of a gun.
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    The truth it may not always be convenient but it is essential.
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    A Brady campaign defender- how cute. Lighten up Francis.


    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    You can beleive it all ya want and cite references from bogus sources all you want. Try to find out if there is even something called the "The National Educator" and then pull the from the source.

    In academic writing I never ever uses a source unless it is verified....and this bogus quote has yet been verified by anyone that is reputable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbirds View Post
    A Brady campaign defender- how cute. Lighten up Francis.
    Seriously? Not sure if serious.

    Please do some research yourself and return to refute the comments, but the truth is there is no evidence that Sara(h) Brady ever made that comment. And the point is: we are all here to defend our rights to keep and bear arms, but if we jeopardize our own credibility by citing bogus comments and vapor quotations then we are not helping ourselves.
    I'm in favor of gun control -- I think every citizen should have control of a gun.
    1 Thess. 5:16-18

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbirds View Post
    A Brady campaign defender- how cute. Lighten up Francis.
    If you like to belive in things that are not true or factual then that is fine. Some folks like to know what is true and what is not. I hiighly suggest you keep your research to InfoWars if that is how you like your news

    I hear they are filled with 100 percent authentic articles with no bias or spin.

    BTW: Just watched Stripes agian...Great movie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmacque View Post
    Seriously? Not sure if serious.

    Please do some research yourself and return to refute the comments, but the truth is there is no evidence that Sara(h) Brady ever made that comment. And the point is: we are all here to defend our rights to keep and bear arms, but if we jeopardize our own credibility by citing bogus comments and vapor quotations then we are not helping ourselves.
    And of course from my posts over the years I am obviously a Brady defender LOL...............Has anyone told Warbirds there is no Santa Clause?
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    And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

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