2A - Ex veteran/Astro-Nut Mark Kelly wants Veterans to be Anti-2A

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    2A - Ex veteran/Astro-Nut Mark Kelly wants Veterans to be Anti-2A

    Real Title: Gabby Giffords, Mark Kelly Launch Veterans Group for Gun Control
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    by AWR Hawkins 8 Nov 2013

    My Comments: They only want Background Checks = gun registration.......... and they talk about 'ALL' the guns they own for home defense................ Please spare me.................. As a + 2 decade veteran, sure, I trust that turd and his (redacted) wife......... I think Mark Kelly is running for Sec of anything with the current Admin......... sucker, he is!


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    By and large, I'd think that veterans understand the need for effective security, the value of a well-armed citizenry.

    His so-called strategy is very likely to be a non-starter. Which makes me wonder why he didn't simply go after a more simple-minded crowd. Makes me wonder how lily-livered the rest of his "value" is, if his primary goal is to attempt to strip citizens of their right to defend their very lives. A destroyer, by any other name.

    His study as an astronaut ... does anyone know what his background truly is? Or, was he a fringe sort who's simply leveraging the moniker to nefarious effect? Questions, questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    By and large, I'd think that veterans understand the need for effective security, the value of a well-armed citizenry.

    His so-called strategy is very likely to be a non-starter. Which makes me wonder why he didn't simply go after a more simple-minded crowd. Makes me wonder how lily-livered the rest of his "value" is, if his primary goal is to attempt to strip citizens of their right to defend their very lives. A destroyer, by any other name.

    His study as an astronaut ... does anyone know what his background truly is? Or, was he a fringe sort who's simply leveraging the moniker to nefarious effect? Questions, questions.
    I met the 'Guy' twice. I refuse to call him a 'Man' = because he is now just using her (respect I have for her) situation to his personal advantage to be 'somone'........... He is a tax payer TWIT, but earned every bit of his arrogant life off of your TAX DOLLARS! He is a twit.

    I am hart and soal sorry about Gabby, but that is now how he is a FRAUD and using it as a reason for him to make a FALSE POLITICAL INCOME off of us legal firearms owners, on top of his GOLDEN GOV RETIREMENT PLAN (that also excludes him from O-Care).

    Yeah, I'm not a fan. I was forced to work with that jerk.
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    As a veteran myself kelly does not represent my values or principals he is just using Gifford’s shooting to further his own agenda and I have no respect what so ever for him or his agenda.
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    They shouldn't have to lease a lot of floor space for their group meetings.
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    He is desperate for some sort of relevance and he's not finding it. He's a tool.
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    Just can't seem to find his nitch,,,,, constantly being over shadow by
    his wife,,,, both had issues even before the evil deed happened to her.
    As a veteran HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME OR TO ME.
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    I have met pro gun control veterans I can count them on one hand and have two fingers and a thumb left over!

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    I, skysoldier29, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

    I'm am going to vote how I feel I should vote when said elections for the people that represent me. I will vote for the person who has the same or near same views that I do. I have never came across a single active duty or vet that is anti gun.

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    Any person who uses the misfortune of another human being is not a man in my book. To use the misfortune of your wife is even lower than a politician will stoop. I put him and Mrs. Brady in the exact same boat.

    I am a veteran and the only thing this tool does is confirm my thoughts not every person in the military is worthy of the title veteran.

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    Does anyone know his position before his wife was shot? I can feel for his family having his wife almost get murdered by some nut out in public, but I hate non political public figures trying to influence people with their views. Unless he is running for an office I have the ability to vote it, I really don't care what he has to say.
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    Ever been to gun stores around military bases? GIs like guns. Thats just the way it is. At least the Army ones do, and from what I have seen around pensecola, Navy do too.

    The vast majority of vets will want nothing to do with his nonsense, and will support gun rights. Thats not really an issue.

    What will be of danger is that the press will portray the 5 or 6 losers & oppourtunists standing behind him, as representing the majority of vets.

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    This is just a way to try to use the respect most now have for veterans as a shield against any criticism of his and his wife's group. If you criticize them, you're attacking veterans. If you criticize Moms Demand Action, you hate women, don't respect mothers, and don't love children. Same principle Kelly and Giffords are trying to create to milk her victim status to feather their own personal bed. Free travel across the US, best hotel rooms, free meals, etc. All they need to do is hold a periodic press event and send out fundraising letters.

    As transparent snf silly as this is, it is partially effective which is why gun rights groups need to organize their own sub groups like Mothers for Gun Rights and Veterans for the 2nd Amendment. Sure, we won't get 1/1,000,000 of the favorable press coverage, but we start blunting one of their tricks to appear more favorable in the public's eye
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormRhydr View Post
    Ever been to gun stores around military bases? GIs like guns. Thats just the way it is. At least the Army ones do, and from what I have seen around pensecola, Navy do too.

    The vast majority of vets will want nothing to do with his nonsense, and will support gun rights. Thats not really an issue.

    What will be of danger is that the press will portray the 5 or 6 losers & oppourtunists standing behind him, as representing the majority of vets.
    Mark Scurvy is basing his model for this on the so called "Winter Soldiers" of John F'in Kerry shame,, um fame. Then it was semi credible because ALL media sources were limited and focused. Now, not so much. For the record, I do know a few vets, generally Air Force, who support this idiocy, one in particular, but then he's also a failure in life.. sooooooooooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatorbait51 View Post
    Mark Scurvy is basing his model for this on the so called "Winter Soldiers" of John F'in Kerry shame,, um fame. Then it was semi credible because ALL media sources were limited and focused. Now, not so much. For the record, I do know a few vets, generally Air Force, who support this idiocy, one in particular, but then he's also a failure in life.. sooooooooooo
    I have never met a Marine who was Anti-2A, but now that you mention the Air Force....................... yes, strange, I have met some of them that are Regressivly Progressive also. Good Point.

    I petition that we fire the Air Force! JUST KIDDING.

    We should however, push the current Air Force leadership to again read the Constitution, if you have been following what the Academy is now teaching....................
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