Dems Vow Passage Of Background Check Bill
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November 14th, 2013 10:34 AM
Dems Vow Passage Of Background Check Bill
"So we're going to pass this law," he added. "We are going to finish the job and pass background checks and then move on and do other things we have to do to get guns off the streets and stop gun violence."
They said it.Give them a foot in the door,and no telling what's next.
Dems vow passage of background check bill | TheHill
November 14th, 2013 10:47 AM
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November 14th, 2013 10:56 AM
That's all they want is to get one foot in the door.Then our gun rights will be history,if people don't pay attention.
November 14th, 2013 10:57 AM
The controllers keep going on about getting the guns off the street and yet I have never seen an AR-15, AK47, Glock or 1911 out on the street just going for a stroll.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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November 14th, 2013 11:11 AM
Let's think about the political climate now: We squelched a move last year, and nothing has changed EXCEPT 6 Democrat Senators are totally FREAKED out by their 2014 reelection and the failed rollout of the ACA. On top of that, the House is going to leverage up when the White House needs help on the ACA.
Do you really think they are that stupid?
I am all for vigilance, but defeating the 6 Dems in the Senate in pretty high on a bunch of lists, so no, I think they'd defer, unless they are ready to go peacefully into the night.
The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins. ― The Journals of Kierkegaard
November 14th, 2013 11:46 AM
It looks like The Hill is just desperate to change the subject from the health care law meltdown. Notice how the "article" never quoted any member of the opposition, especially when they could have tried to put one of the 4 Senate Dems on the spot or 1 of the more squishy Republican senatoes. Instead the only R name dropped was Peter King of NY, who is mostly ignored by the House caucus. Otherwise we get Pelosi quotes say there are 30 mystery house Republicans willing to vote and Nancy has such a great track record of honesty.
Distraction and the leftist at The Hill just can't help themselves. They had to do some necessary worship to their second highest tenet of their faith, ie gun control.
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November 14th, 2013 11:49 AM
The true believers in secure Districts/States are the ones doing the squealing about gun control. As R&G says, those with re-election hanging over their heads in Districts/States that aren't securely liberal are facing possible defeat simply because of the ACA. To add another losing fight, like gun control, into the mix would be enough to sink them. It is doubtful they will want to engage.
But we need to defeat them nonetheless for their previous support of gun control, just like we need to defeat liberal republicans like Christie, who have taken anti-gun stances. Republicans like Christie may be more dangerous than liberal democrats as they truly are the camel nose under the tent flap.
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November 14th, 2013 11:50 AM
Lets get real. The dems in the house couldnt pass gas. Much less a gun bill.
November 14th, 2013 11:52 AM
Has anyone told them we already have background checks?
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November 14th, 2013 11:53 AM
Rock, you're right... and it even says so in the first article:
But it also says something else that I find truthful and honest; and believe it or not, Pelosi said it...
They might not want to hold their breath. Despite a long series of high-profile mass shootings in recent years, GOP leaders have shown no interest in tougher gun laws. On top of that, only 14 legislative days remain scheduled in the House this year, and next year's mid-term elections will only raise the hurdles higher for contentious legislation like tougher gun laws.
Now, that's not to say that "taking a risk" has anything to do with it... or the "Safety" of future generations... But it does point out the way these politicians think... and it's on both sides of the aisle...
"Nobody's political career is more important than protecting the American people," she said. "Who among us is of such value that we would not say, 'I'll take a risk so that our kids don't have to take a risk.' "
Again, it has nothing to do with sparing risk for anyone... It's all about kicking the can down the road... foisting today's policies on future generations... Just like everything else these pols pass, there's a cost... and the cost is always passed on to the coming generations... Not necessarily financial costs, which we already know they excel at.
This time, the future generations will suffer much greater than financial costs, these proposed laws will directly effect the future generation's liberties... And, with the loss of liberty, and the inability to fight for it.... we become a nation of serfs... if not outright slaves... I won't live long enough to see it, I think... Or rather, I hope...
It could be worse!
November 14th, 2013 12:18 PM
He's right. The 2A does not give (grant) rights. It protects them.
Originally Posted by From the article
The 2A is instead an explicit limit on government authority, specifically stating there shall be no infringements allowed by the People on the RKBA. Beyond that, the Constitution is clear about how other rights and authority not otherwise specified in it are retained by the states and the People. And with the 14A and recent rulings the 2A is extended to cover all the People in all the states, thereby removing 2A fiddling from the states' authority.
And these temporary hirelings believe they have the authority to do any such thing as this?
Time to get on the phone and write those letters to your temporary reps in the Congress. Inform them how strongly you feel this violation of the Constitution is, and why. (That is, if you believe that.) Time to stop the liberty-haters' train wreck that they're revving up again.
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self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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November 14th, 2013 12:21 PM
They said the same thing the last time, and will say it again the next time.
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November 14th, 2013 12:21 PM
Preaching gun control now will take some of the focus off (Un-)Affordable Healthcare. Another liberal red herring.
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November 14th, 2013 12:33 PM
How about we address "violence" instead of "gun violence"? Pretty sure if we have less violence, we would also have less gun violence.
November 14th, 2013 12:45 PM
The Affordable Health Care Act was a planned disaster. Millions losing their health insurance, and with no where to turn.......the Government will help them out. Obama is truly a genious at turning
the U.S. into a Socialist Country.
Kimbers are the guns you show your friends....Glocks are the ones you show your enemies.
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