A Motown Cop’s Case for Concealed Carry

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    A Motown Cop’s Case for Concealed Carry

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    “I’m not talking just about Detroit. I’m talking about any city, any place in America. Police officers cannot be everywhere. So if a person is in a life-threatening situation, and they have a [concealed weapon], they have an opportunity to have personal protection.”

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    And that is the chief of police speaking. Fortunately he had experience in several other cities and saw first hand what honest citizens with CC permits can do to lower crime rates. And even more fortunately he is smart enough to have learned from that experience - not all people are.
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    Yeh buddy.
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    Finally someone in the news with some sense, of course you wont see his comments on nightline, or the 6:00 news, but I'll take it.

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    Awesome, I hope this will catch on to the other police chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    Awesome, I hope this will catch on to the other police chief.
    He'd hang himself first.
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    The interviewer was not all that pleased. Which really pleased me.
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    It's certainly a start, but I will posit this....

    Concealed carriers deter crime just like plainclothes police deter crime.
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    Well hes way better in his outlook than a lot of Police Chiefs. Now if he could just get those pesky criminals to submit to background checks he might have a leg to stand on stating making a law abiding citizen go through one. Still hes on the right track
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    That chief lost me when he started remarking that permits need to be for specific guns. Since when is a police chief authorized to infringe on my 2A right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by From the article
    Nevertheless, Craig supports some restrictions for gun ownership. Permits for concealed weapons should be gun-specific, he suggests, because residents may be able to safely handle one weapon but not another.
    I have yet to see any data concluding a high incidence of unsafe handling (ND's) for a person in which they were deemed competent on one platform but proved themselves to be wholly incompetent on another. It won't come down to the tool in question, IMO. It'll come down to the basic competency and motivation to seek competency. Responsible people will seek it, irrespective of what's printed on a permissions clip from Big Brother. There's plenty enough incentive to seeking such competency in the form of being held accountable for manslaughter or worse.


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    Background checks meet with his approval as well: “I don’t think that’s a lot to ask — to identify who is purchasing a weapon.”
    Beyond permissions schemes being infringements, and infringements being specifically disallowed by the 2A. Quite a lot to ask, to my way of thinking.


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    As far as other gun-control measures, such as assault-weapons bans or regulations to limit magazine capacity, are concerned, “they’re very separate issues,” he insists. “How do you compare an assault weapon to someone being authorized to have a concealed-weapons permit? It’s like me comparing an apple to a banana.”
    It's all one's RIGHT by being a citizen, that's how you compare them. Little different than having a 2ft length of rope and a 25ft one, having a given caliber or number of rounds or size of gun isn't materially different than having another. The key difference is in the upstanding nature of the person ... not the product or feature in question.


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    But he also rejects those who want to dismiss gun ownership altogether: “Here’s my view. We have violent criminals who illegally possess guns. Therein lies the problem. Our problem is not with the good Americans, the good Detroiters who possess guns.”
    Then ditch the "permissions scheme" mentality and get constitutional on it all, strictly going after the offenders instead of jumping on everyone's heads in the vain attempt to gain access to offenders. That'd be nice. That'd be more effective, actually. And far, far cheaper than what's involved in the vast permissions scheme infrastructure, enforcement procedures, statutes and waste of legislators' (and citizens') time.
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    That was very very well put by our new police chief. If someone of his status can realize this, maybe there's hope that more of the blind will be able to see. Kudos to Mr. Craig.


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    Good news, but already running here:

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    Way to go Chief, you tell 'em.

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