Gun buy back - question.....

Gun buy back - question.....

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    Gun buy back - question.....

    Not sure if this is the right place to post. Please move if not.

    Was reading an article about gun buy-backs earlier tonight where cities buy back guns for various amounts of money. One area had bought a pistol that once belonged to Teddy Roosevelt, and was stolen from a museum 3 years ago.

    Question is: can these cities/ organizations to be charged with buying/receiving stolen property? Or do they have to run the serial numbers after purchase and return stolen items to their rightful owners?

    Just curious...
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    The Museum would have superior rights to that pistol, over the entity that bought it. In other words, yes. The Museum SHOULD get the pistol back.

    A potential problem might come in if there was a State Statute that mandated that any weapons bought must then be destroyed. Also, of course, the Museum should put the entity that bought it on notice that they want it back. Ie make a demand for it.

    The gun buyback programs are sort of unusual examples. A much more common example is that of pawn shops.

    Someone steals a gun, then pawns it. The original owner is entitled to their weapon back at NO COST TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER. Omaha is an exception to this rule, though. How they operate is contrary to Nebraska Law, lol. No kidding.
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    Was curious if they even ran the serial numbers or just destroyed them. Seems odd that they could just ignore this and destroy at will.....

    Patri0t- what state were you a trooper in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSilverT View Post
    Was curious if they even ran the serial numbers or just destroyed them. Seems odd that they could just ignore this and destroy at will.....

    Patri0t- what state were you a trooper in?
    No clue. I do know SOME States have either passed laws, or proposing laws to ban destruction of such weapons. They specify that they must be sold at auction to the public.

    Btw, you do understand that these are "no questions asked" buybacks, right? So if "T Bone" stole a gun, killed a few folks with it, and left it at Grandmas house, she could turn it in for her gift card, or whatever, and no questions asked about it.
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    Btw, you do understand that these are "no questions asked" buybacks, right? So if "T Bone" stole a gun, killed a few folks with it, and left it at Grandmas house, she could turn it in for her gift card, or whatever, and no questions asked about it.[/QUOTE]

    That should not be allowed......I'm surprised how this could be legal.....

    Instead of micro stamping new guns, how about a law that all buy back guns must have ballistics tested against all bullets found at un solved crime scenes. That would slow them down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSilverT View Post
    Btw, you do understand that these are "no questions asked" buybacks, right? So if "T Bone" stole a gun, killed a few folks with it, and left it at Grandmas house, she could turn it in for her gift card, or whatever, and no questions asked about it.
    That should not be allowed......I'm surprised how this could be legal.....

    Instead of micro stamping new guns, how about a law that all buy back guns must have ballistics tested against all bullets found at un solved crime scenes. That would slow them down!
    That would be nice but I bet the Supreme Court would shoot it down, after all criminals cannot be required to register weapons as it would be a violation of their 5th Amendment rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSilverT View Post
    Not sure if this is the right place to post. Please move if not.

    Was reading an article about gun buy-backs earlier tonight where cities buy back guns for various amounts of money. One area had bought a pistol that once belonged to Teddy Roosevelt, and was stolen from a museum 3 years ago.

    Question is: can these cities/ organizations to be charged with buying/receiving stolen property? Or do they have to run the serial numbers after purchase and return stolen items to their rightful owners?

    Just curious...
    Can they be? Probably. Will they be? Unlikely.

    One of the biggest problems with gun "buy-backs" is that there is usually a policy of anonymity and "no-questions-asked" that is offered as an enticement. This obviously creates a means to dump stolen guns and guns used in crimes. I've never heard of a stolen gun being returned to its rightful owner via one of these buy-backs, although a year ago the Hartford, CT PD advised a lady that the gun she was attempting to turn in was actually a very rare WWII German submachine gun. In what was probably the greatest act of charity ever recorded in the annals of gun buy-backs, the cops did not seek to prosecute her for owning an unregistered machine gun, but instead steered her toward selling the gun through legal channels. That move probably netted the lady $20K instead of a $50 Wal-Mart gift card.

    I have to wonder, though, if the gendarmes are surreptitiously photographing the people turning in the guns from teh van parked across the street with the heavily-tinted windows.
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    Most case at least in CA they run the guns to see whats up then either give them back or desstroy them .. Some people have had problmes as the gun had the serials filled down so they had to get new serial stamped on it

    My persoanl fav is the guy who was going to get his glock 17 back but the last gangbanger who had it had moddy it to fired full auto... So no more gun



    Course in AZ all guns unless hot/illegal modded are to be sold back to the public per state law they can not melt them down anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongRecroom View Post
    Course in AZ all guns unless hot/illegal modded are to be sold back to the public per state law they can not melt them down anymore.
    I'd be willing to bet cash money the Kenya Kid, Holdem' for Fast and Furious Holder ATF and the Justice Dept LOVE that AZ Law!!! The Federals in DC are operating much like the Federales down Mexico City way Si??
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    Thats kind of the idea of a gun buy-back program, is to get stolen/unwanted guns off the street. A state entity thats set up for this purpose will be granted immunity from prosecution because theres no criminal intent involved, and its state sponsored program. They hope that law abiding citizens will see the error of their child-murdering ways and turn in the AR 15's, but that not likely to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSilverT View Post
    Not sure if this is the right place to post. Please move if not.

    Was reading an article about gun buy-backs earlier tonight where cities buy back guns for various amounts of money. One area had bought a pistol that once belonged to Teddy Roosevelt, and was stolen from a museum 3 years ago.

    Question is: can these cities/ organizations to be charged with buying/receiving stolen property? Or do they have to run the serial numbers after purchase and return stolen items to their rightful owners?

    Just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by patri0t View Post
    Once a City gets hold of it.......... its all politics. The law is for us po' folk.
    Exactly!!! There is one set of rules for us peons and another for our "betters".

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