Injunction against Corps of Engineers gun restrictions- 2A

Injunction against Corps of Engineers gun restrictions- 2A

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    Injunction against Corps of Engineers gun restrictions- 2A

    Of Arms and the Law: Injunction against Corps of Engineers gun restrictions

    Morris v. US Army Corps of Engineers, D. Idaho, Jan. 10, 2014

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    In Gibson v. Commonwealth, 237 Ky. 33, 34 S.W.2d 936 (1936), the High Court stated:  [I]t is the tradition that a Kentuckian never runs.   He does not have to.


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    Well, that's a surprise. The robes agreeing with the 2A and not the COE. The Corps doesn't like to lose.
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    Too bad they don't like the 2nd LOL
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    In Gibson v. Commonwealth, 237 Ky. 33, 34 S.W.2d 936 (1936), the High Court stated:  [I]t is the tradition that a Kentuckian never runs.   He does not have to.

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    The agenda-driven source you cite has misstated the situation. Such an injunction doesn't mean that the Court is agreeing with Plaintiff at all. All it means is that they have presented a prima facie case to be contested. No one has "won" anything yet. The Corps could well still prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    The agenda-driven source you cite has misstated the situation. Such an injunction doesn't mean that the Court is agreeing with Plaintiff at all. All it means is that they have presented a prima facie case to be contested. No one has "won" anything yet. The Corps could well still prevail.
    Well said, but it's a good start!!

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    Seems it states the court issued an injunction based upon the likelihood the plaintiffs will prevail (win) Additionally they quoted the 2nd per Heller , I'm doubting the Corp CAN "win" as they're an arm of the GOV and are bound by the 2nd
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    The judge, B. Lynn Winmill, has been very harsh on the BLM and Forest Service concerning their compliance with laws, particularly environmental laws. He cites many cases in his rulling concerning those issues. He is rarely overturned. While this is a preliminary injunction, it is likely the final ruling will back the preliminary injunction.

    A good first step. Now to get the VA Hospitals to follow suit concerning their parking lots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorizo View Post
    The judge, B. Lynn Winmill, has been very harsh on the BLM and Forest Service concerning their compliance with laws, particularly environmental laws. He cites many cases in his rulling concerning those issues. He is rarely overturned. While this is a preliminary injunction, it is likely the final ruling will back the preliminary injunction.

    A good first step. Now to get the VA Hospitals to follow suit concerning their parking lots.
    How about all .gov parking, at a minimum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    How about all .gov parking, at a minimum?
    Parking lots, basic properties, dams, lakes ... just not inside "core" buildings (administrative, staff, storage; excluding obviously publicly-accessible stuff like restrooms, visitors' centers, "tour" areas). That'd be nice. But, the parking lots and dams thing would be a huge step toward decriminalizing normal upstanding behaviors of non-threatening folks.
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    A rest room would be nice.
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    Concur with all of that. The Post Office just took a hit on that this last fall. Building on that, for me, puts the VA in the crosshairs.

    http://www.mountainstateslegal.org/n...l#.UuEt739HaSM

    http://www.mountainstateslegal.org/n...r#.UuEuA39HaSM
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    Looks like some of our judges,,,, have learned to read.
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    I have selling spaces at a large automotive swap meet this weekend and will be camping there too. I expect to be leaving with a large pile of cash, and am carrying $300 in small bills as change. The State of California owns this and most fairgrounds, and prohibits firearm possession there. I would like to see this judgement expanded to State level. I am not going to advocate or admit to breaking State law. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arborigine View Post
    I have selling spaces at a large automotive swap meet this weekend and will be camping there too. I expect to be leaving with a large pile of cash, and am carrying $300 in small bills as change. The State of California owns this and most fairgrounds, and prohibits firearm possession there. I would like to see this judgement expanded to State level. I am not going to advocate or admit to breaking State law. .
    It will not expand beyond the affected agency and right now, within the jurisdiction of the Federal Court making the ruling. You will need to challenge The State law yourself, in State Court.

    This preliminary ruling was in Federal Court, specifically against a specific Federal agency rule.
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    Here is the regulation concerning weapons that the VA places on their signs. While they place their signs at the entrance to the grounds, they are only authorized to ban weapons from the buildings or attachments thereto:

    18 U.S.C. 930 : US Code - Section 930: Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

    I will be sending a certified letter to the VA hospital asking that they remove their signs from the entrance to the grounds or modify them to reflect the regulation.

    VA signs below:
    http://www.cfm.va.gov/til/signs/Signage07-Mandatory.pdf
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