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    2A - Arizona Senators Advance Nullification of Federal Gun Laws - GO!

    Real Title: Arizona Senators Advance Nullification of Federal Gun Laws
    Top Right News on February 4, 2014 in GOP, Guns, Politics

    My Comments: Why not? Oh, and I don't golf for crap............. really, I am really bad at beating up the little white ball. I shoot better...........Just Sayin........

    .......This week, Arizona legislators aimed to improve on that status, advancing nullification of federal gun laws and stopping state enforcement of them. Arizona State Senator Kelli Ward, along with eight co-sponsors, introduced the Second Amendment Preservation Act in the Grand Canyon State.

    According to the bill, SB1294, all federal regulations which violate the Second Amendment would be recognized as “invalid and void in this state” (that would be any federal gun law).

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    I hope they pass it and I hope many more follow suit. If States can pass laws legalizing MJ while it remains illegal on a Federal level, then why not legalize what is Constitutionally assured in light of the Federal Govt illegally infringing on it. Makes perfect sense to me.
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    I wish all states would go this route. Ky has form of it in several ways and one bill passed the senate laying idle in the house. I wish they would just pass it but wish it was a little stronger.

    P.S. Wont be long I predict before the Federal Supremacy folks come along saying AZ legislators are criminals etc etc etc. Oh well.
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    Won't be long before the State Supremacy People begin saying the WH members are Criminals, and we impeach and imprison them as traitors.
    KS was one of the first to Nullify the Federal interference with our Constitutional Rights. Quite a few other States have joined forces.
    It is good to see more joining.
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    So that makes Alaska, Wyoming, and now AZ if it passes. I wish Missouri would try again.
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    Gosh I hope this trend continues. It would be great if all 50 states passed this type of law.
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    "all federal regulations which violate the Second Amendment would be recognized as invalid and void in this state"...

    ... including the National Firearms act of '34 and Gun Control Act of '68?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_C View Post
    "all federal regulations which violate the Second Amendment would be recognized as invalid and void in this state"...

    ... including the National Firearms act of '34 and Gun Control Act of '68?
    Well, that means that no more NFA applications and $200 stamp, and no more restrictions on goofy weapon/firearm designs.

    The cost of a select fire, and suppressor is still going to be stupid high, and a rich mans game. Destructive devices might get a little sketchy.

    AZ if they win, may end up being a bit hypocritical by writing various state level laws keeping some of those items on the no-no list.

    Does a Recoilless Rifle (mini cannons) qualify as an "Arms", again, rich mans game. If a body has $200mil to buy and maintain a nuke in accordance with internationally accepted means in their back yard should they be allowed?
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    I'm not going to get into the "should we be able to own nukes?" debate, I was just curious as to what the extent of the bill was.
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    Well, if Washington can simply "decide" that portions of ANY legislation "will be or will NOT be enforced" (voter intimidation, illegal immigration, spying on citizenry & allies, etc. etc.) then we've got a Federalist bully on our hands. IMHO, the best way to deal with a bully is direct & resolute CONFRONTATION. Looks like Arizona has rediscovered its cajones.
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    I've said this before and I'll say it again - if you want nullification, tell your state reps to start with the Federal Income Tax.
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    It only works if the Fed allow you do get away with it, that is why the laws for marijuana for Colorado and Washington are working, the feds could come in and arrest every shop owner tomorrow and the states couldn't do a thing to stop them.

    The courts have not found favorably for state nullification of federal laws.
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    But let's remember, that any level of GOVERNMENT "only works if" WE (the People) "go along with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    It only works if the Fed allow you to get away with it
    Which is the root problem in many of the hot-button issues these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    It only works if the Fed allow you do get away with it, that is why the laws for marijuana for Colorado and Washington are working, the feds could come in and arrest every shop owner tomorrow and the states couldn't do a thing to stop them.
    That could get really interesting, very fast. Your position assumes of course, that the state wouldn't have the cojones to try to stop it, by force.

    I realize that this issue is an old argument on this site, but Ghost Tracker has it right. There are two problems going on here. One, the Federal govt is messing in areas that they should not have ever been involved. Two, compounding this is the fact that they are conveniently neglecting in areas that they do have responsibility and violating the own rules regarding their actions. In this light, I have to say that claiming absolute supremacy doesn't cut it. They have already violated their contract and need to be dealt with accordingly.
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