Interesting talk at range on UBC

Interesting talk at range on UBC

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    Interesting talk at range on UBC

    Well out shooting today and got talking to some folks in the 20s or so .. There were shooting non FUD stuff so I think these guys are down with it ... Until the one brings up how he thinks there should be universal background checks ... I had a bit of a chat with him on it ... His whole point was we should give the Antis a bone with UBC so they dont go after "Clips" his words not mine ...


    I am thinking the antis got to him as he was quotation the whole 90% support UBC line ... Very odd to me ...

    Or I am wrong to think that UBC seem to never end well?


    He seem to think as well that the NRA should give in and give the antis something ...

    I am just chuckling at all of this ...


    Or I am the only one who think UBC are a slippery slope ?
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    His whole point was we should give the Antis a bone ...
    NFA
    GCA 68
    Brady Bill
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    etc. etc etc....

    How many more dang bones should we "give" the antis? The human only starts out with what, 206 bones?

    Wait, we never gave, they took!
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    We can give no quarter - after every 'give' there is always another ask. It is the entire premise of progressivism which has been the primary political driver of the last century.

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    Give nothing to the antis, all I hear is fear mongering from them with 0 facts to back it up.
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    I have had to explain to a few people the real purpose of UBC's.

    Once they understand that criminals are NOT - repeat NOT - going to submit to background checks no matter what the law says -- and that the true only purpose is to begin to collect a complete record of all honest citizens who buy guns in preparation for confiscation like other countries (England and Canada and Australia) have done..........they then realize that they were fed a bill of goods by anti 2nd amendment preachers.

    It takes some time to patiently explain, but is worth the time and effort.

    PLEASE do not sit and chuckle when you run into this kind of brain washing stuff. Take whatever time is needed to undo the damage, and do it right then and there.
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    Or I am the only one who think UBC are a slippery slope ?
    No, and not by a Longshot- want to have some fun with these folks?

    Ask them WHY they would support this when this Admin doesn't prosecute a drop in the ocean of the FELONS caught lying (Felony) on the forms - NOW so "exactly what" would be the point in adding to this with nothing being done

    Then watch the "deer in the headlight"
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    Slippery slope....with a toboggan interposed between it and your buttocks.
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    No, do not! Explain UBC is de facto registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    No, do not! Explain UBC is de facto registration.
    What everyone had better do is start insisting that REAL HISTORY CLASSES are taught! One of my majors as an under grad was History.

    Most high school kids have next to no history requirement, and what is offered is virtually useless. Often taught by gym coaches, or some other person who doesnt know the subject, and/or doesnt care.

    Also, think about WHY Govt might not be fond of OUR History. Ie how this country was created??? By Revolution. I think they dont really want people to dwell on that very much.
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    Explain Richard, when in fact that's what it is.
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    UBCs are a means not an end. The only two questions about UBCs are: 1) What is the end that UBCs support? 2) Do you support that end.

    So...
    IF you believe that UBCs advance essential public safety then supporting that end is morally right (you would be mistaken but intellectually honest).

    However, IF you believe that UBCs are a means to disarm the people then supporting that means is supporting the end of public disarmament (and likely a tyrannical future).

    It sounds like your conversation partners are naive enough to believe that the Anti's would honor a compromise. In reality, the only thing they'd get out of their "trade" would be a little longer with their "clips" [sic] because the progressive play the long game and play for keeps. Throwing them a bone might get them to back off but only for a short while- we lose by playing the short game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongRecroom View Post
    Well out shooting today and got talking to some folks in the 20s or so .. There were shooting non FUD stuff so I think these guys are down with it ... Until the one brings up how he thinks there should be universal background checks ... I had a bit of a chat with him on it ... His whole point was we should give the Antis a bone with UBC so they dont go after "Clips" his words not mine ...


    I am thinking the antis got to him as he was quotation the whole 90% support UBC line ... Very odd to me ...

    Or I am wrong to think that UBC seem to never end well?


    He seem to think as well that the NRA should give in and give the antis something ...

    I am just chuckling at all of this ...


    Or I am the only one who think UBC are a slippery slope ?

    See this cartoon about "compromise" with the anti-gunners under the name of "reasonable" gun control: Illustrated Guide to Gun Control | Hypocrisy and Stupidity of Gun Control Advocates
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    They have repeatedly said that they want civilian disarmament UBC is essential to this goal. We give them this bone and someday they will be gnawing our skeletons.

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