Murthy nominated for Surgeon General Not good for the 2nd Amendment: Your thoughts?

Murthy nominated for Surgeon General Not good for the 2nd Amendment: Your thoughts?

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    Murthy nominated for Surgeon General Not good for the 2nd Amendment: Your thoughts?

    This is a terrible nomination---no experience 36 years old---anti-gun---and doesn't seem to understand what his job should be. I don't like it and the NRA certainly doesn't.

    “This is so big we are scoring it,” National Rifle Association spokeswoman Catherine Mortensen told TheBlaze regarding the vote on the surgeon general nomination. “We sent out notifications to our 5 million members asking them to contact their senator to vote against this nomination.”

    Is there any good news here? Maybe some of the red state's gun hating congressmen will blow their cover and vote for him helping themselves out of office.
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    Not exactly sure what the duties of Surgeon General are, beyond being an advocate for health issues. Didn't take long to figure out what this guy's qualifications are, he founded Doctors for Obama, and thinks guns are a public health threat. In other words, he is totally unqualified to be in this office.....just like Obama.
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    The Surgeon General has no say in any gun policy, so his opinion isn't worth more than the gum on the bottom of my shoe.

    With this said, he will use the position as a bully pulpit to spew an anti-gun agenda.

    Just another idiot in an administration overrun by them.
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    Question

    What kind of no experience? No experience as a surgeon? Perhaps he is an experienced sturdgeon?

    Is he a professional in any discipline within the medical profession or is he just another goofball in the long line of goofballs in the O administration??
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    "Another of Dr. Murthy's proposals would strip vital privacy protections put in place to protect firearm owners and prevent the fracturing of physician-patient relationships. The letter, for example, calls for removing "the provision in the Affordable Care Act and other federal policies that prohibit physicians from documenting gun ownership." While some advocates of the ACA had argued the provision prohibiting such documentation was unnecessary, given that the ACA had nothing to do with guns, Dr. Murthy obviously sees the ACA as playing a role in gun control.

    And, in late 2012 and early 2013, Dr. Murthy took to his personal Twitter account to promote his gun control beliefs, including a statement on October 16, 2012, that "Guns are a health care issue." " NRA-ILA | Anti-Gun Obama Nominee--Vivek Murthy--Clears First Hurdle in Confirmation for U.S. Surgeon General

    "Investors Business Daily reported on Murthy’s anti-gun tweets, including, “Tired of politicians playing politics w/ guns, putting lives at risk b/c they’re scared of NRA. Guns are a health care issue,” during the 2012 presidential elections, and in December 2012 in the immediate aftermath of the Sandy Hook massacre: “NRA press conference disappointing but predictable — blame everything in the world except guns for the Newtown tragedy. #wakeup.”"

    people like this are like the Gaboon Viper .. Quite and you never see them coming till they bit your right in the bum ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongRecroom View Post
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    "nvestors Business Daily reported on Murthy’s anti-gun tweets, including, “Tired of politicians playing politics w/ guns, putting lives at risk b/c they’re scared of NRA. Guns are a health care issue,” during the 2012 presidential elections, and in December 2012 in the immediate aftermath of the Sandy Hook massacre: “NRA press conference disappointing but predictable — blame everything in the world except guns for the Newtown tragedy. #wakeup.”"

    people like this are like the Gaboon Viper .. Quite and you never see them coming till they bit your right in the bum ....
    A health care issue would be the thousands killed by yellow fever during the construction of the Panama Canal not the law abiding gun owners.
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    Think about it. If the government now controls healthcare, and if this becomes a major healthcare issue...

    Really, what don't they control when they control our healthcare?
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    I've heard accusations of obstructionism for some time now. I think it's time to justify them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyD View Post
    The Surgeon General has no say in any gun policy, so his opinion isn't worth more than the gum on the bottom of my shoe.

    With this said, he will use the position as a bully pulpit to spew an anti-gun agenda.

    Just another idiot in an administration overrun by them.
    Maybe, but there's been a push going on for decades to make "gun violence" a "public health" issue, the idea being to use the medical establishment to back-door anti-gun policies. Take a look at some of the anti-gun statements from medical professional organizations, and the picture starts to emerge. It's more dangerous than it appears at first glance.
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    We still have private insurers and your behavior ie risk factors can effect your premiums. Basically your doctor asks about firearms if you fib it may even become a federal offense. If you tell the truth your risk assessment goes up along with your premiums. Registration and infringement courtesy of Obamacare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongRecroom View Post
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    "Another of Dr. Murthy's proposals would strip vital privacy protections put in place to protect firearm owners and prevent the fracturing of physician-patient relationships. The letter, for example, calls for removing "the provision in the Affordable Care Act and other federal policies that prohibit physicians from documenting gun ownership." While some advocates of the ACA had argued the provision prohibiting such documentation was unnecessary, given that the ACA had nothing to do with guns, Dr. Murthy obviously sees the ACA as playing a role in gun control.
    This is perhaps his greatest potential as a threat to gun rights, through medical records and removing privacy protections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyD View Post
    The Surgeon General has no say in any gun policy, so his opinion isn't worth more than the gum on the bottom of my shoe.

    With this said, he will use the position as a bully pulpit to spew an anti-gun agenda.
    As you say, the opinions can leverage position and influence to great (or, horrendous) effect. Put in such a position, however temporarily, such a person could push for skewed research, skewed reports, provide another nail in the coffin of justifiability of claims of the 'guns are bad' blather that spews from the lips of the liberty-hating oath breakers we've hired.

    Don't know this person's background, training, essential qualifications. Don't have any real opinions, other than the threat of yet another anti-gunner placed in a position of authority by the People, ostensibly over them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaT View Post
    Not exactly sure what the duties of Surgeon General are, beyond being an advocate for health issues. Didn't take long to figure out what this guy's qualifications are, he founded Doctors for Obama, and thinks guns are a public health threat. In other words, he is totally unqualified to be in this office.....just like Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    As you say, the opinions can leverage position and influence to great (or, horrendous) effect. Put in such a position, however temporarily, such a person could push for skewed research, skewed reports, provide another nail in the coffin of justifiability of claims of the 'guns are bad' blather that spews from the lips of the liberty-hating oath breakers we've hired.

    Don't know this person's background, training, essential qualifications. Don't have any real opinions, other than the threat of yet another anti-gunner placed in a position of authority by the People, ostensibly over them.
    He is an Obama appointee - his only qualifications are a) some school somewhere in the world gave him a degree (maybe), b) he raised money for the last election, and c) he is a mindless zombie that will do anything he is told.

    They can make guns a public health issue and the move to allow doctors to become a de facto registration is a real threat because this administration has proven time and again that it is very willing to assume the power of the legislature through executive decree - Obama keeps changing the law anyway, so what is one more time. And, the other side doesn't really seem willing to do anything about it.

    This said, even dear leader would likely wait until near the end of his second term to make that kind of stand against the 2A. With midterm elections coming up and so many in his party on the edge he is UNLIKELY to push that button at this point.

    We need to stay diligent!
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    Not too surprised. More empire stacking.
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    In the Obummer administration the only requirement for an
    appointment is to follow his lead &/or be a big contributor,,,,
    experience is not necessary for the leader so why should it
    be for his supporters.

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