Idaho Gov Signs Emergency Legislation to Nullify Fed Gun Laws

Idaho Gov Signs Emergency Legislation to Nullify Fed Gun Laws

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    Idaho Gov Signs Emergency Legislation to Nullify Fed Gun Laws

    Idaho Gov. Signs Emergency Legislation to Nullify Federal Gun Laws : Freedom Outpost

    On the heels of the illegal ATF raid on Ares Armor, Idaho Governor Butch Otter signed into law S1332, a bill which will effectively nullify federal gun laws. The nullification legislation will prohibit state enforcement of any future federal act that relates to firearms, accessories or ammunition.

    S1332, or as it is commonly referred to as the Idaho Federal Firearm, Magazine and Register Ban Enforcement Act, passed both the house (68-0) and senate (34-0) unanimously.



    According to the legislation, it will:


    "Protect Idaho law enforcement officers from being directed, through federal executive orders, agency orders, statutes, laws, rules, or regulations enacted or promulgated on or after the effective date of this act, to violate their oath of office and Idaho citizens' rights under Section 11, Article I, of the Constitution of the State of Idaho."


    It also criminalizes any action by employees of the state that violate the legislation:


    "Any official, agent or employee of the state of Idaho or a political subdivision thereof who knowingly and willfully orders an official, agent or employee of the state of Idaho or a political subdivision of the state to enforce any executive order, agency order, law, rule or regulation of the United States government as provided in subsection (2) of this section upon a personal firearm, a firearm accessory or ammunition shall, on a first violation, be liable for a civil penalty not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) which shall be paid into the general fund of the state…"
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    I love the way it sounds but wonder how long until it'll be tested. I wish all states would do the same thing, then maybe the people in D.C. Would start listening.
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    And it does nothing to stop the ATF from doing exactly what it wishes in the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    And it does nothing to stop the ATF from doing exactly what it wishes in the state.
    Actually any elected County Sheriff is granted the authority to boot the ATF out of his County any time he wants to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Actually any elected County Sheriff is granted the authority to boot the ATF out of his County any time he wants to.
    Yeah, let us see how that works if they actually try it. Thinking there will be a Sheriff in handcuffs.

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    But they are on record, really about all they can do. Sure would help if other states did the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    And it does nothing to stop the ATF from doing exactly what it wishes in the state.
    Last time the Feds thought they could do exactly what they wished in Idaho it didn't turn out so well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    And it does nothing to stop the ATF from doing exactly what it wishes in the state.
    Im still looking into that. No a sheriff cannot arrest a ATF agent for enforcng a federal law in his county. But he if things are as the couple sheriffs and sheriff candidates have stated to me can refuse to allow them into the county.

    Im still hunting and requested that they provide me with something in writing but it hasnst been but a few days.

    I do know a county Sheriff is in most ways the final say within his county. And I do know of a murder here that involved crossing state lines that the FBI wanted to come in on and were refused by the county Sheriff. And they did not come.

    Ive been told both ways but it seems if the Sheriff of a county as an elected official actually knows how much power he has within his county he can stop Federal Agents from entering if he wants too. At least its been done a few times around here on murders that did involve going across state lines.

    Even if ATF can they without help of state agencies to do alot of their dirty work for them, simply do not have the resources to enforce all their decrees across even one state.
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    I guarantee that the 1968 GCA still 100% applies in all of Idaho. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wishful thinking.

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    The states effectively nullifying the Federal gov't. Think about it. Humm.
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    No Sheriff will be placed in handcuff by the ATF. That is exactly what the Sheriffs I spoke said as well so Qkshooter I would say is right. The ATF are not elected officials. Just lackys. The Sheriff in his county is. On par with a senator or any other elected official.

    I know a few here dearly the believe the Feds trump everything but I can cite a few things I know for a fact that they dont.

    Idaho is just another added state passing bills like this. Not only does it put ATF and the Feds in a uncomfortable position but it is a warning shot across the bow of the Fed that if the do not stop trying to make this the USSA, they will likely join with several states already calling fora Article 5 CC. That in effect ends Federal power and nullifies their laws until the convention is over.

    That I think is probably overdue. And one thing I might live to see. One can only hope.
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    As I suspected, this Idaho bill is very limited in scope. It only applies to federal law enacted after this bill becomes Idaho law and it only speaks to confiscation. All existing federal law is still to be enforced.

    http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/leg...2014/S1332.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    As I suspected, this Idaho bill is very limited in scope. It only applies to federal law enacted after this bill becomes Idaho law and it only speaks to confiscation. All existing federal law is still to be enforced.

    http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/leg...2014/S1332.pdf
    They wouldnt be stupid enough to make it retro active. Getting rid of NFA GCA is up to the people electing reps that will repeal those outrages. They should never have been allowed to pass in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
    They wouldnt be stupid enough to make it retro active. Getting rid of NFA GCA is up to the people electing reps that will repeal those outrages. They should never have been allowed to pass in the first place.
    Anyway even without that bill the Fed can in no way require a state to enforce Federal law with its State LE agencies. Much less a Sheriff.
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    I can tell you the Sheriff has the right to pull state enforcement authority from federal BLM enforcement agents. I was involved in two instances one in northern California and one in Southern California. The BLM cancelled some leases that were over 100 years old held by the same family for that period of time. The San Bernardino Sheriff Pendergrass pulled their MOU and they could only enforce federal law no state. The same thing happened when some forest service enforcement started acting rather God Like and the Sheriff pulled their MOU.

    There is that pesky little thing called States Rights in the tenth amendment.

    http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medial...yCommentor.pdf
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