Sheriffs advocate standing against Anti-2nd laws

Sheriffs advocate standing against Anti-2nd laws

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    Sheriffs advocate standing against Anti-2nd laws

    Gun ordinances face defiance from law officers « Watchdog.org

    About Vermont, but addresses other states as well.

    "The head of a nationwide sheriffs coalition is calling on Vermont’s law enforcement officers to defy three controversial gun control measures passed by Burlington voters three weeks ago."

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    "The thought that Vermont’s top law officers might publicly oppose gun restrictions isn’t a novel idea. Sheriffs in Colorado are refusing to enforce that state’s new background checks and ban on high-capacity magazines. In Connecticut, tens of thousands of residents are refusing to comply with a new state law that requires registration of guns and high-capacity magazines. In Saratoga Springs, N.Y., citizens publicly protested the state’s new SAFE Act last week by burning a thousand gun registration forms."
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    Just sounds like a bunch of stupid people came up with those laws. There was no problems there before, what possible reason did they have to enact the new laws in the first place? control
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    I really hope that there are more officers out there everywhere that take this same attitude, because these kinds of laws could be snuck in just about anywhere. I don't put anything past politicians anywhere at any level that just want to make a name for themselves.
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    This is becoming a theme ,enforcement could become a more complicated issue in Conn.,Vermont,NewYork and Colorado.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CIBMike View Post
    This is becoming a theme ,enforcement could become a more complicated issue in Conn.,Vermont,NewYork and Colorado.
    Yup - right up until the sheriff wants to crack down on a specific individual for whatever reason. If the sheriff rebellion does not reverse the laws, I see selective enforcement by LEO and possible Nat Guard involvement by the executive of some of these states to enforce the laws the sheriff's won't.
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    On what grounds exactly could they call out the NG ?????

    We made an Unconstitutional decree that no LEO wants to enforce??????

    States are free to employ their National Guard forces under state control for state purposes and at state expense as provided in the state's constitution and statutes
    I don't think this falls under the authority as it's certainly not "any disaster" (man made or natural) no rioting is taking place etc. and I seriously doubt any state's statutes and Constitution allow for this action
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksholder View Post
    Yup - right up until the sheriff wants to crack down on a specific individual for whatever reason.
    The municipality passed "laws" that are invalid due to state preemption and the sheriff is saying no to enforcement of them.

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    How exactly are LEO's supposed to enforce the "must keep guns locked up in the home" provision? Does the legislature expect them to make random searches? Go door to door? Use psychics?

    What amazes me is that the people who vote for this crap don't see how this impacts their personal freedom somewhere down the line. If you can authorize LE to regulate how you store guns in your home, what is to keep them from regulating anything else you do in your home? Maybe you should have to lock up all cookies and soda because they can be dangerous for children and adults who eat too much. Or, maybe all kitchen knives should be locked up?

    People really are becoming mindless sheep, incapable of thinking for themselves or understanding anything that isn't spoon fed to them by some politician or media figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
    On what grounds exactly could they call out the NG ?????

    We made an Unconstitutional decree that no LEO wants to enforce??????



    I don't think this falls under the authority as it's certainly not "any disaster" (man made or natural) no rioting is taking place etc. and I seriously doubt any state's statutes and Constitution allow for this action
    You have answered your own question. If the laws are not constitutional (state or federal), why would you think those who put the laws into place would act constitutionally when trying to enforce them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBuckwheat View Post
    Just sounds like a bunch of stupid people came up with those laws. There was no problems there before, what possible reason did they have to enact the new laws in the first place? Control.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What Mr. Buckwheat said. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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    I think at some point the situation is going to get very interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I think at some point the situation is going to get very interesting!
    Yup. If they don't repeal this law, a physical confrontation is inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksholder View Post
    You have answered your own question. If the laws are not constitutional (state or federal), why would you think those who put the laws into place would act constitutionally when trying to enforce them?
    Really that is not relevant in the least - either they have the authority to call out the NG or they do not- the NG don't " jump" - just because and after a certain Ohio college incident I'd bet they would make sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
    Really that is not relevant in the least - either they have the authority to call out the NG or they do not- the NG don't " jump" - just because and after a certain Ohio college incident I'd bet they would make sure
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    ETA - interesting, your quoted text contains more than the original post. I would not bet that the NG would resist if told to go. You have more faith in them than I.
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