Two bills in the House to watch & possibly support....

Two bills in the House to watch & possibly support....

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    Two bills in the House to watch & possibly support....

    http://www.expertclick.com/NewsRelea...etail&ID=15072

    Two deserving of all-out support from America’s 80 million law-abiding gun owners are H.R. 73, by Congressman Roscoe Bartlett of Maryland, and H.R. 226, by Congressman Cliff Stearns of Florida.

    H.R. 73, the Bartlett bill, would protect the right to obtain firearms for security and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the legal enforcement of such right.

    The philosophy behind it is solid. Without recognition of a right to legitimate self-defense, there really is no genuine recognition of a right to life itself. And without recognition of a right to the means necessary for self-defense, that is, firearms, there is no real acceptance of a right to self-defense. So, conceptually, the right to obtain and use firearms for self-defense really is part and parcel of a right to life itself.

    H.R. 226, the Stearns bill, would set national standards according to which non-residents of a state who possess permits to carry concealed firearms issued by other states may carry concealed firearms in the state.
    I'm curious as to watch the fights over these two:

    H.R.73- The anti gun states like Illinois & cities like NYC, will probably fight this one.

    H.R.226- National reciprocity, treating concealed permits like a driver's license, good idea, but even bigger fight.

    While not a fan of the national government passing ANY law, this fight will be fun to watch.....if they ever get out for a full vote.
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    H.R. 73 is redundant. It's called The Second Amendment.

    H.R. 226 sounds like a good idea.
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    +1 to GG...That was the first thing I thought of when reading it. Maybe we should send our reps/senators a copy of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights....you know, the documents they swore to support and defend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    H.R. 73 is redundant. It's called The Second Amendment.

    H.R. 226 sounds like a good idea.
    The Maryland State Constitution, has no RKBA language so it makes sense that the ReP from Maryland would see a need for this type of Legislation. Kudos to him. I need to get in touch with him and see what I can do to support him.

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    Both are redundant.

    Should I be ashamed of supporting those bills anyway?
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    I don't know that letting the federal government get it's dirty claws into CCW is such a good idea, but it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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    CCW National Carry probably won't happen in my life time unfortunately
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    I think those laws are step in the right direction and deserve support.

    Later on (hey,the antis use the incremental approach, why can't we?), we need to make it federal law that interference with gun rights, especially by those acting under color of law (like NOLA, back immediately post-Katrina) is a federal FELONY, punishable by a mandatory minimum prison term.

    A civil cause of action for damages, with a statute that gave attorney's fees and costs to a successful plaintiff would be a great idea, too.

    If it works for voting rights, and other constitutional rights (you wouldn't believe some of those rights), it'll work for gun rights.

    That'll stop some of the monkeying around with our rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 View Post
    CCW National Carry probably won't happen in my life time unfortunately
    It's okay as long as there are state level agreements. I'm in Florida and we have such reciprocity agreements with at least 37 states. Those with whom we DON'T I'm probably not interested in visiting anyway. Those agreements would have to be deconstructed one at a time. Any federal law attempting to outlaw those agreements wholesale would likely be met with a successful 10th Amendment challenge but I doubt I'll see THAT in my lifetime.
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