" Keeping the Numbers in Perspective: Firearm Related Deaths in America"

" Keeping the Numbers in Perspective: Firearm Related Deaths in America"

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    " Keeping the Numbers in Perspective: Firearm Related Deaths in America"

    http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/06/...hs-in-america/

    There they go again, those hyped-up, twisted, statistics being pimped by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Common Sense, and the rest of the anti-gun crowd. Violent crime is up 3-4% across the nation for 2006 and GUNS!-guns are the cause.

    Why is it that people get so upset over firearm associated deaths and yet are so accepting of the over half again as many deaths caused by motor vehicles? Both are unnecessary. Both are a senseless waste of life. Both are tragic in their consequences. But somehow in this society, we have come to accept vehicular deaths as a routine part of our existence, yet (the far fewer) firearm deaths are somehow beyond the pale.

    In 2004 there were 11,250 homicides caused by someone shooting someone else, and there were 16,603 suicidal deaths by firearms, but in the same period, 43,947 people were killed in vehicular accidents. Looks like to me we need to spend more time worrying about teaching people how to drive than about whether or not they have a firearm-“assault-rifle” or single fire BB gun. Why don’t they go after the reckless drivers, the speeders, the stop sign runners, the red light runners as avidly as they do the gun-owners? Why don’t they propose draconian traffic laws like they do firearm laws?
    He has some good points in the article, worth the time to read.
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    Its a wedge issue used by radical liberals. Its also a sticking point for elitist that are afraid of the rabble having any power.
    -Diplomacy: The art of saying nice dogie until you can find a rock.
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    -When the only tool you have is a hammer then everything starts to look like a nail.

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    Hey wait! Does that mean that I am rabble 'cause I own one or more firearms???
    I then must be "Super Rabble, 'cause, not only do I own one or more firearms, I teach firearms operation, safety and marksmanship. I suggest reasonable firearms to the uninitiated and yes even to sheeple, plus that I even vote.
    Dang! I must be Super Duper Rabble, 'cause I even reload my own ammunition.
    Aw S--t I must be Super Duper Dominuple Rabble, 'cause I not only teach, instruct, reload, own, suggest, vote and - - - and - - - Cast - My - Own - Deadly - Destructive - - Horrible - - - Murderous - - - - Bullets!

    I could go on but you good folks got the message by the first sentence.

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    Let's here it for the rabble! Maybe we need "Rabble!" t-shirts?

    Unfortunately, it's not just radicals who hold uninformed opinions regarding the right to keep and bear arms. There are many, many individuals of an otherwise reasonably moderate political bent who are just not aware of what's actually so. And let's face it, fear is a powerful - maybe the most powerful - motivator. So when otherwise rational individuals are afraid, it totally clouds their thinking.

    When we do a good job of delivering our message, backed by real statistics and educated expression, we have a chance to win over those rational enough to make a decision based on facts rather than fear.
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    Just plain rabble here.

    What we need is a new approach to countering this type of misinformation, but I'm not crafty enough to come up with it. Does anyone have any good ideas of how to get the message out to the masses without sounding like paranoid gun freaks, Okay, I'm a gun freak, just not paranoid.
    "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia,(D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]
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    Once they ban the guns you can figure the cars will come eventually (many of the same people shoving gun control down our throats are also the same people shoving "public" transportation as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Once they ban the guns you can figure the cars will come eventually (many of the same people shoving gun control down our throats are also the same people shoving "public" transportation as well)
    Ah, the joys of paying taxes for a bus system I don't use. Or really see anyone else use for that matter.

    What kills me more than the issue of cars killing more people than firearms are when they portray firearms as the big killer of children. Several things rank exponentially higher on the list of children death's than firearms.
    ...He suggested that "every American citizen" should own a rifle and train with it on firing ranges "at every courthouse." -Chesty Puller

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