Bloomy's Suit shot down by the feds?

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    Ok, stupid question from PapaScout... What is wrong with a "straw purchase" as it's called? Never heard the term before and don't see the problem with it. The person you talk to about the gun needs to fill out the paperwork for it?
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    A straw purchase is a purchase that is made with an intermediate doing all the paper work and stuff, and then the gun is transferred to someone else. It's illegal under the Gun Control Act of 1968.

    The problem with it is that most of the other people they go to are people who aren't qualified to buy the firearm themselves, like convicted felons or minors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    I do sorta feel bad for those "investigators" that were hired and HOPEFULLY told they were covered. Some poor slob just trying to get paid, working for a municipality, now facing felony charges. Wonder if any of them questioned the legality of their actions?
    Agreed! Bloomy should be the one facing felony charges.
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    agree with the whole argument that Bloomy should face charges and answer for what he has done.

    I also smell a martyrdom coming, look what has been done no my so valiant efforts to save you "less than me" people from yourselves.
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    Is your Mayor listed?

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    Time to drop a line or two to Manny Diaz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    I do sorta feel bad for those "investigators" that were hired and HOPEFULLY told they were covered. Some poor slob just trying to get paid, working for a municipality, now facing felony charges. Wonder if any of them questioned the legality of their actions?
    So " I was just following orders." works every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Green View Post
    Why should Blumberg and his flunkies get away with breaking federal law by admittedly making straw purchases? They have no standing as federal law enforcement agents, and they’ve very visibly and publicly broken federal law.

    They should be promptly and vigorously prosecuted for these crimes. If they aren’t, someone on the federal level isn’t doing his job, and should be reprimanded and/or replaced.
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    NRA comment --

    BLOOMBERG DEALT SETBACK -- FOR NOW

    In a blow to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's crusade to drive
    gun dealers out of business, the U.S. government has decided not to file
    charges against those dealers targeted by the mayor.

    Stepping well outside his legal jurisdiction, Bloomberg coordinated a
    private, undercover "sting" operation using private investigators to
    stage straw purchases in the hopes of catching dealers engaging in
    illegal sales. Among the numerous problems with this illicit campaign,
    Michael Battle, DOJ's director of the executive office for United States
    Attorneys, cited the Mayor's use of persons "without proper law
    enforcement authority" and efforts that "interrupt or jeopardize"
    criminal probes.

    When asked if the Bloomberg administration plans to stop conducting the
    sting operations, Deputy Mayor Ed Skyler said, "Not necessarily."

    In hailing this recent development, NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox
    noted, "NRA has always maintained that Mayor Bloomberg overstepped his
    boundaries and possibly broke the law in conducting these sting
    operations, and we expressed our concerns to BATFE immediately. NRA is
    grateful that the bureau has reviewed the matter and concluded that no
    action is warranted against these firearms retailers. NRA hopes that
    Mayor Bloomberg heeds the BATFE's stern warning that he and his
    administration could face potential legal liabilities if they continue
    their disregard of current federal law and the safety of law enforcement
    officers. If Mayor Bloomberg was serious about reducing crime, he would
    focus on prosecuting violent criminals in his city, instead of resorting
    to media stunts and press conferences."
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