Who says you don't need a gun in a hospital?

[paramedic70002]

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6156168

Shooting At ETMC Hospital In Tyler, Accused Gunman Charged

March 2, 2007 05:32 AM EST


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43 Richard White




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New information this afternoon on the shooting outside the main lobby of ETMC in Tyler. KLTV 7 has learned that 43 year old Richard White of Tyler has been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and aggravated assault causing bodily injury. His bond has been set at $1.25 million.

At 1:00 pm today (2/28/07), Tyler police said a gunman fired shots, injuring two people. One of victims is identified as Lucinda White of Tyler, the accused gunman's wife. Lucinda White worked at ETMC in the cafeteria at the hospital. She's listed in critical condition.

Police said a bystander, that was inside the hospital, was also wounded. Police said a bullet broke through a window and hit 61-year-old Ronald Norton of Alto in the ankle.

Dolores Shepple, a witness said, "You can definitely tell it was gun shots. Everybody was stunned. That's when everyone ran to the window to see if they could see what was going on. We saw people running this direction toward the hospital, but that's all we could see from that floor. "

Authorities said after the gunman opened fire, he dropped the gun and drove away.

Police pulled over the accused gunman just two miles away from the hospital on Gentry Parkway. That's where Richard White was arrested. Authorities later recovered the accused gunman's weapon: a 380-handgun, in a nearby flower pot outside ETMC.

For the very latest information stay with kltv.com, KLTV 7 News at 6pm and 10pm.

Lindsay Wilcox, lwilcox@kltv.com, reporting

Kathy Vitale, kvitale@kltv.com, 5pm news producer

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[ccw9mm]

A hospital is simply a building ... a place of employment ... a spot with lots of people. Just like any other building. It's got the same risk for all of the stupid, felonious acts of the perceived-aggrieved, like this husband. It's got much higher risk, too, due to the high-value drugs, equipment and tools inside. Let alone the simple fact that a hospital is a primary element of our "fighting" infrastructure, our ability to put people back on the line in an emergency, our ability to withstand disaster. Preachin' to the choir, of course, but it should be high on the list of places that are sacrosanct for carrying. Hospital staff should carry. Citizens should not be criminalized from carrying there. Uncertain what the rules are for this particular hospital/locale, but it wouldn't surprise me that the gloriously far-sighted legislators in that state have seen fit to do exactly that (criminalize carrying there).

'43 Richard White.'

More like Richard Yellow.

'... Dolores Shepple, a witness said, "You can definitely tell it was gun shots. Everybody was stunned." '

"Shepple", hm? I'm betting they got the spelling wrong.

[tk4878]

At the hospital where I work, an ex-military RN was fired because his gun was in his locker. Yes, he should not have told anyone that he had it. The area around the hospital is crack central. People have been robbed and raped in the employee parking lot. What do you trade...your life or your job? There are emotions running high in healthcare. I can't tell you the times I've been threatened or verbally assaulted. If you do decide to carry...keep your mouth shut!

tk

[obxned]

This isn't too surprising.

[Steve48]

They rob you blind anyway so why not shoot you to put you out of your misery!! Steve48

[raevan]

Dolores Shepple, a witness said, "You can definitely tell it was gun shots. Everybody was stunned. That's when everyone ran to the window to see if they could see what was going on. We saw people running this direction toward the hospital, but that's all we could see from that floor. "
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Now that is real smart, you hear gunfire and run towards it to see what is going on. Me, I'd be on the floor looking for a way out, while looking for the gunman.

[USPnTX]

was that Dolores Shepple or Sheeple? lol

[Tom G]

When I lived in Miami the hospital parking lot was a good place to get mugged. I can't blame any one working there for wanting to carry.

[TwistedMonkey]

One of my students is a ER doctor at a N. Mpls, Mn hospital where they can hear gunshots going on outside all the time. They routinely have to patch up the gang bangers who while trying to save their lives others are trying to get into the ER to finish them off. The doctor was assaulted twice before he decided it was time to be proactive and get his carry permit along with training.
Also at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester a young uneducated misguided youth had to be tackeled and detained as he wanted to finish the job he had started on the outside as they were in the process of saving a gunshot recipient.
Bad people will be bad...Good people need to protect themselves.

[paramedic70002]

Hope it never happens, but what a story it would make if an ER doc blasted one right there!

[downrange]

i take my mother to the hospital regularly and i live in a decent area. however right next to the hospital is one of the worst little areas (bloomsdale) outside of philly for the southeast. your damn right i carry. especially since the parking always sucks and your walking quite a bit.

[retsupt99]

Hope it never happens, but what a story it would make if an ER doc blasted one right there!

But the real irony is that right after the 'proposed shooting' the said doctor would be required to 'fix 'em up'...

ret

[falcon1]

IIRC, this just happened to a police officer in Robertson County, Tennessee, as well. The officer (Officer Short) is at home recovering, and the shooter was apprehended almost immediately. There is no such place as a "crime-free zone," although many wish to believe they exist (and that they live and work in them).

[farronwolf]

[QUOTE=ccw9mm;308374]A hospital is simply a building ... a place of employment ... a spot with lots of people.

Uncertain what the rules are for this particular hospital/locale, but it wouldn't surprise me that the gloriously far-sighted legislators in that state have seen fit to do exactly that (criminalize carrying there).


In Texas it is not against the law to concealed carry in a hospital. The hospital must post the appropriate and well known 30.06 signage in order to keep one from carrying a legally concealed weapon into their buildings.

And regardless what the witness's name is Shepple or Sheeple, I see no reason to bash a witness to a crime. There are plenty of other in this world worthy of bashing.

[Schwebel]

I am an ER nurse and lemme tell you, I wish I was allowed to carry. I work in a small hospital and our security isn't armed either. About 3 months ago we had a guy come in with some .380's in his chest and had to fly him out. About 15mins later these three thugs came in through our ambulence entrance looking in every room. I asked them who they where looking for, they ignored me and kept running around the ER. We called the police and they left before they got there. Found out the next day, they were the shooters, looking to finish the job. I've been in several situations at work where my life was in danger. I've even had a gangbanger flash a nickle plated .25 at me once. I keep writing letters to our hospital admin. to get some armed security, but they won't. Hospital carrying is the next section of the Ohio law I woud like to see changed.