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    From the Brady's **UPDATE**

    Got this in a email from the BRADY bunch this is RETARDED.


    What can we do about gun violence?

    There are many things we can do to prevent gun violence. Here are three policy proposals:

    1. We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.
    Effective background checks would have stopped the Virginia Tech killer from buying these guns.

    2. We must reduce access to weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense.
    Had Congress and the President not allowed the assault weapon ban to expire, the killer may not have been able to obtain the high capacity magazines he used in his assault.

    3. We must give our police and federal law enforcement the tools and resources they need to fight gun crimes, including illegal gun trafficking and corrupt gun dealers.
    New technologies, such as microstamping and other ballistic identification systems, might have allowed authorities to identify the Virginia Tech shooter earlier, before his second, most deadly, rampage.


    1) Your system was the one that failed. (The brady NICS check)

    If it had been other peoples systems I.E. CCW on campus it may not have failed, at least others could have fought back.

    2) BS. If the guy had 10 round magazines he just would have reloaded that much more. Thats is not the problem or he would have pulled his P22 while he reloaded his 19 who cares hindsight is 20/20 bad things ARE GOING to happen. Now if a CCW holder had been watching for him to reload at anypoint in the fight that may have ended it right there. It dosn't matter at all how many shots he had. Only, that he had the will to carry out a EVIL plan. He may have used 4 guns instead of 2. The point is there was nobody there to stop him becaus Idiots like you prevented them from doing so.

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    "New technologies, such as microstamping and other ballistic identification systems, might have allowed authorities to identify the Virginia Tech shooter earlier, before his second, most deadly, rampage. "

    Are you talking about microstamping the bullets and ballistic testing. Yeah that would have prevented this from happening. That stuff only comes in AFTER the shooting not before. Wake up allow CCW on campus and fix the problem.
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    Had Congress and the President not allowed the assault weapon ban to expire, the killer may not have been able to obtain the high capacity magazines he used in his assault.
    The key words in this passage are "may not". Even if the Clinton AWB had still been in effect, Cho would still have been able to obtain his hi-cap mags; it would have just been more difficult (and expensive), that's all.

    A law is only effective if the people choose to obey it, a simple concept that the Brady Bunch can't grasp.


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    And go to your God like a soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 View Post
    Here are three policy proposals:

    1. We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.
    Effective background checks would have stopped the Virginia Tech killer from buying these guns.
    As you said HE PASSED THE BRADY CHECK!

    2. We must reduce access to weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense.
    This appears to be a first, they are acknowledging that some guns are legitimate for self defense.
    Had Congress and the President not allowed the assault weapon ban to expire, the killer may not have been able to obtain the high capacity magazines he used in his assault.
    We still don't know how many of the magazines were normal capacity & how many were reduced capacity. (except for the two he bought on Ebay that were 10rounders).

    3. We must give our police and federal law enforcement the tools and resources they need to fight gun crimes, including illegal gun trafficking and corrupt gun dealers.
    This clown did not commit a crime until the shooting started. There was no illegal purchase, no illegal gun & no corrupt gun dealer involved.
    New technologies, such as microstamping and other ballistic identification systems, might have allowed authorities to identify the Virginia Tech shooter earlier, before his second, most deadly, rampage.
    These people have been watching to many episodes of CSI........Only on TV does ballistic evidence investigation & identification happen in under 2 hours.
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    1. We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.
    Effective background checks would have stopped the Virginia Tech killer from buying these guns.

    You want to prohibit ALL OF US from having guns -- that has always been obvious. So why not just ban guns for EVERYBODY? Oh, that's right, you could never make that happen in a country where so many of us care about liberty.

    2. We must reduce access to weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense.
    Had Congress and the President not allowed the assault weapon ban to expire, the killer may not have been able to obtain the high capacity magazines he used in his assault.

    Since when does the Brady Center for Idiotic Bans allow that SELF DEFENSE is a legitimate reason to own a gun?! These *#&%^ liars are SO TWO-FACED! "Self Defense" is a reason that is explicitly NOT treated as a legitimate reason to get a gun license in various anti-gun cities and states. Now Brady says that a gun is okay if it's for self defense? Since when?!

    And as for the magazines; LIARS! He used NORMAL capacity magazines, unless they were sticking out from the bottom of the guns! Just because you disingenuously reclassify normal capacity as "high" capacity does not make it truthful. And we all know -- despite your repeated lie -- that the so-called assault weapons ban did not remove existing inventory of so-called "high capacity" magazines. (Frankly, I'm amazed that they're not calling them "clips"!)


    3. We must give our police and federal law enforcement the tools and resources they need to fight gun crimes, including illegal gun trafficking and corrupt gun dealers.
    New technologies, such as microstamping and other ballistic identification systems, might have allowed authorities to identify the Virginia Tech shooter earlier, before his second, most deadly, rampage.

    Um, are you actually suggesting that microstamping the bullets that killed the first two victims in the dorms would have been used to identify the gun they came from, then the owner, before the rest of the rampage was committed?! This is ludicrous! The bodies were not even cold yet! But somehow the bullets would have been quickly plucked out of them and identified in a lab (where?) and suddenly that would have resulted in the police's ability to stop the killer cold in his tracks wherever he was?? What if the gun had been stolen and was in a thief's hands, not in the purchaser's?


    These people are absolute morons. It's gratifying to see that they are less and less a factor in any meaningful debate. Every time they open their mouths publicly, they make themselves less and less relevant.

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    Same ole crap that these people have been putting out for years.Steve48

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    My head hurts....I loathe these Brady people...

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    One more rhetorical question.... What authority would the president have used to reauthorize the extention of the AWB? I don't know of any he would have used to do this without reauthorization of the bill.

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    Brady's = stupidity....
    nothing they ever say makes any common sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
    One more rhetorical question.... What authority would the president have used to reauthorize the extention of the AWB? I don't know of any he would have used to do this without reauthorization of the bill.
    They forget that Bush said that if Congress delievered the AWB extension to him he would sign it. They cannot really blame him, other than they could say he did not actively lobby Congress to pass the extension.

    I suppose he could have tried an executive order while the law was still in force, but a court challenge would have struck it down most likely. Congress could also have passed law to invalidate the EO, basically making the EO illegal.
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    Same feces, different day!
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    honestly, these people take the same garbage, re-arrange a few words to make it superficially relevant to whatever the latest shooting is, and regurgitate it back up every time.

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    It is sad that Jim Brady got shot leaving his only legacy to have his wife continually piss on his name by being a hypocritical idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    It is sad that Jim Brady got shot leaving his only legacy to have his wife continually piss on his name by being a hypocritical idiot.
    And arguing for regulations and laws that won't save anyone from his fate.

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    Dear ,

    Seven years have passed since hundreds of thousands of us gathered on the National Mall in Washington D.C. — and in local communities — to demand that something be done about gun violence.

    What has happened since we marched in 2000? More than 200,000 people have died from guns and another 450,000 have been seriously injured.

    And yet, Congress has done nothing to address the daily toll of gun deaths and injuries in America.

    Even as our nation is still reeling about the deaths of 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech, our leaders are silent. They are hoping we forget. Move on. Don't demand action.

    But we don't forget: we continue to ask the President, Congress, our local leaders, and our neighbors: "What are YOU going to do about gun violence?"

    One thing you can do about gun violence is to get involved locally. What started as one of the largest marches on Washington is now a national network of Million Mom March Chapters around the U.S. that work locally, yet stand together, in the fight against gun violence. Click here contact your local Chapter. You can also look up the events from coast to coast that Chapters are participating in this weekend.

    Also this week, you can pick up a copy of the latest Ladies' Home Journal magazine (with Dr. Phil on the cover). The issue features a strong and in-depth look at the illegal gun trafficking problem in America, featuring the story of a North Carolina mother who lost her husband to someone who shouldn't have had a gun.

    And we promise to keep working with our Congressional allies to move strong gun laws forward. Whether it is strengthening the Brady background check system, keeping guns out of terrorists hands, or cracking down on corrupt gun dealers, we are aggressively fighting to make our communities safer.

    Jim and I wish you a Happy Mother's Day — and thank all of you who continue to fight this fight, through your Million Mom March Chapter, your e-activism, or your donations. Working together, we can prevent gun violence in America.

    Sincerely,

    Sarah Brady, Chair






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