PUT DOWN YOUR COFFEE...Chicago Mayor Daley outraged by lack of gun laws

PUT DOWN YOUR COFFEE...Chicago Mayor Daley outraged by lack of gun laws

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    PUT DOWN YOUR COFFEE...Chicago Mayor Daley outraged by lack of gun laws

    http://www.nbc5.com/politics/1345902...s=chi&psp=news

    Mayor Outraged By Lack Of Gun Laws
    Daley Rants About Politicians Skirting Issue

    CHICAGO -- An outraged Mayor Richard M. Daley on Wednesday unleashed a tirade about gun control, prompted by the 500 shootings of Chicago children so far this year.

    Two more Chicago teens were killed this week.

    "It's an outrage," Daley said. "Now remember, the national debate of politicians is all about Iraq, not about guns; not about violence in America. You're always overseas. Why don't we just get back and say, 'Well, why don't we just make this a better country, a safer country of 30,000 people?' Can you see 30,000 people getting killed in Iraq? And they want to impeach George Bush because of Iraq? How about looking at all your politicians who are not supporting common sense gun laws?"

    Last month the city reported the shocking statistic that an average of one Chicago public school student is murdered every 10 days, usually with a gun.
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    but.... but... the ban on handguns should be working... it makes perfect logical sense


    </end pathetic attempt at defending chicago gun laws>

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    It's amazing that a man with a brain that utterly dysfunctional does not simply go *urk* and die.




    I'm certain, without looking up stats, that a number of people are stabbed to death and beaten to death in Chicago each year. Why isn't Daley upset about this? Where is his call for knife control, and a law against curling your hand into a fist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    It's amazing that a man with a brain that utterly dysfunctional does not simply go *urk* and die.
    I'm sorry, I realize that this is a serious subject but that just made me laugh out loud because it is so very true.

    which number is more true...500 this year so far, or one every 10 days? one every 10 days = ~35 per year. 500 so far = ~1000 per year.
    odd numbers there and as always I don't believe them unless I know where they came from.

    ETA: Ahh I see... 500 is "shootings" and 1 every 10 days is "murders" ... conclusion Chicago is far too dangerous...we should ban the city

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    Why would I need to put down my coffee? Daley is a statist pure and simple. The only thing that surprise would be to hear that Daley was supporting lifting Chicago's gun ban and supporting concealed carry for Illinois. Now then I would have to put my coffee down.
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    It kind of makes you wonder if this guy can read!
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    Ah my home town; Chicago Illinois, the state of FOID cards.

    Firearm Owners Identification Card - you must have one, by law, to own a firearm. I wonder how many of those shootings were done by people with an FOID card? What? Very, very few? How can that be? It's the law!

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    Chicago. I'd rather live in my septic tank than visit Chicago.

    Let's just take the guns away from law-abiding citizens and make them fodder for law-breakers. Then we'll have these situations. And we can express shocked, political outrage.

    Oh, that's already happened.

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    Just when you think Hizzoner exhausted his repertoire of asinine statements, this comes along.............


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    This is not a gun or gun law problem...it's a community problem.

    Daley needs to spend less time grandstanding for applause during speaking engagements and to get his offices working on the obvious which is getting hold of his cities urban youth at the youngest of ages to provide them with means and avenues toward escaping from that place of darkness and to them hopeless blight.
    If they didn't have guns they would use knives, clubs, shod feet, chains, and fists in gangs of 3 or more.

    The city is already a gun free zone so what's the problem Daley?
    As noted by OldMick it it very unlikely any of the shooters were FOID holders.
    Education, mental health support, vast improvement of their school system along with support of teachers who when it comes to children are themselves 'first responders' and canaries toward future community citizen results.

    More in the way of excuses and responsibility shirking from a career politician.

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    Not to mention that most of those"children" are lifelong gangbangers that the anti's call "children" because they are under the age of 21.

    It must make them less dangerous...being so young and all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    This is not a gun or gun law problem...it's a community problem.

    Daley needs to spend less time grandstanding for applause during speaking engagements and to get his offices working on the obvious which is getting hold of his cities urban youth at the youngest of ages to provide them with means and avenues toward escaping from that place of darkness and to them hopeless blight....

    ...As noted by OldMick it it very unlikely any of the shooters were FOID holders. Education, mental health support, vast improvement of their school system along with support of teachers who when it comes to children are themselves 'first responders' and canaries toward future community citizen results....

    - Janq

    Well said!

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    Crack dealers shooting each other isn't real crime, more like a form of Darwinism in action.
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    Lack of gun laws??? Heck he has his head stuck in a dark place.

    There are so many darned gun laws - what is needed is implementation as well as realizing that the gang/drug situation is almost beyond policing in a big city. Plus it will be just those groups who have and will get guns, totally regardless of any laws.

    As ever it is the honest Joe who suffers, being potentially impotent regarding means of protection. I am not sure at all what the answer is to solving the murders by low lifes but it sure ain't more gun laws!
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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    Crack dealers shooting each other isn't real crime, more like a form of Darwinism in action.
    The problem is it's not just criminals shooting criminals, as innocents are being caught in the middle if not drawn in to same as well.

    Also as means of survival in their jungle often times you are forced to join a gang/group of some sort in order to be able to leave your own home and walk to school or the bus stop. Additionally just being born into a given family circle with associative friends or by happenstance through no choice of the child having to live in a given area, apt. complex, or even block can with little choice else wise pretty much require one to be 'down for' a given group. Not to choose so can in a real way be a fatal decision.

    The mayors office is ultimately responsible, in my mind and in my community, for regulation and management of ones town or city. Within that comes public safety, community support, support of schools & education, support of employment & citizen opportunity development, and overall overseeing the life & living of all community members not just those who may have voted for him or even have ability to vote, which children and criminals do not.

    It's pretty easy to stand up on a stage and crow about how guns are the at fault. Guns killed our citizens. Guns shot your childs best friend from the block or schoolmate from homeroom.
    The fact is guns are not the problem. It's the hand attached to that gun and the mindset that controls both. Why are these hands not holding a pencil, book, PC mouse, job application, or a ballot to vote in someone other than the proven by results to be ineffective Daley out of office?
    Instead the hands of Daley's constituents are holding guns, knives, each others blood, shovels on funeral days, and mothers are holding their own hands clasped in prior wishing their children safe travel be it to school, around the block to a friends home, or into the arms of that of their own individual belief after breathing their last breath.

    Something more needs to be done by Daley other than writing speeches and placing blame on laws not being stiff enough.
    If laws against guns were the answer then Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, DC, NYC, MD, CA, and NJ amongst others would have much lower criminal victimization rates than they do.

    How can this be Mayor Daley?
    Chicago is a 'gun free zone'.
    Why aren't your citizens safe there and why aren't your children studying books rather than shooting bullets or ducking them?
    What have you been doing and what have you done, Mayor Daley?

    Personally I'm getting sick and tired of hearing these crap excuses and passing of the buck by these people.

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    P.S. - Imagine the amount of Illinois specific and national tax revenue lost over the lifetime of each person under 18 killed due to crime...if only they had been given a n opportunity and some direction toward possibility and opportunity to escape.
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