Should convicted felons lose their rights?

Should convicted felons lose their rights?

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View Poll Results: Should convicted felons loose their rights?

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  • Yes, they should loose all rights.

    22 31.43%
  • No, they should loose no rights after they serve their sentence.

    12 17.14%
  • They should loose some rights only.

    9 12.86%
  • Yes for some felonies - no for others

    27 38.57%
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    Should convicted felons lose their rights?

    Subject that sparks up debate once in a while, surprisingly theres no poll for the subject.

    There is a thread going right now (mods merge is possible):

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=27722


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    Hard poll to answer because it would depend on what the "felony" charge was, some are really stupid...

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    Yes we have this being discussed but - as you wish to poll this I'll let it run in its own right for now.

    To avoid undue extra discussion it would be useful if most folks vote - but add post if needed to amplify their choice.

    I still come back tho to a comment I made earlier in other thread - felony is a huge blanket term and I do not like using it as such. Many so called felonies are relatively minor and IMO would not preclude a person after serving their time from being a perfectly responsible gun owner - plus having their right of self defence.

    I cannot myself return rights to killers and abusers etc - they rescind those rights IMO when they commit their crime - even with prison time served. The ''lesser'' felonies could in many cases deserve rights restored.

    In fact I cannot vote - no category fits my stand.
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    LOL!!! Looks as if the lose vs loose discussion was wasted time.

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    Haha - OK - it's corrected
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    Sorry, drop one "o" from "loose" to "lose" then

    Chris, see if you can fix the poll options.

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    What other options do you want added? It's hard to find a category that suits my take to be honest - whole big deal sorting out the felony ''ratings"

    I ditched the surplus "O" - retirbution and payment will be invoiced soon
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    I can't vote either.. I'm in the "yes for some 'felonies', no for others" camp.

    edit: oh look, the option is there now.. guess I'll go vote
    Last edited by jackofspades; June 22nd, 2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason: add vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by cagueits View Post
    Sorry, drop one "o" from "loose" to "lose" then

    Chris, see if you can fix the poll options.
    Sorry. I meant no disrespect with my LOL. I was remembering the recent thread about this and had to smile a bit.

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    OK - per jackofspades ref' - I have added just that to the poll - and voted on it.

    It does give more leeway I think for folks who have that take on it all.
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    I voted no, but I would like to expound on it. I think people who commit violent crimes should never be returned to society. Ever. So, if someone does some kind of fraud or something that's a felony, then I think they should get their rights back after they have served their sentence.
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    "Yes for some felonies -- no for others."

    A violent felon, i.e. one who has actually unleashed his desire to physically harm another person in a criminal way? NO. His crime is, in my view, insight into his being, and I don't want people with that kind of nature receiving the permission of society to arm themselves.

    My main view on this subject is that all free people have the right to defend themselves; and since they do, it is wrong to say that someone should be free to live in society outside of prison, but may not exercise all of his human rights.

    In my view, if society agrees (via the "justice system") that a person should be released from prison, then society should be able to agree to recognize his entitlement to full rights as a free human being. So if you still have reservations about letting a convict have, for example, guns, all you're really telling me is that he should still be in prison.

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    People should wear robotic necklaces and as soon as they think bad thoughts their heads blow up.

    Would put a few people out of work but I can live with that.

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    Absolutely, by committing a felony for all intensive purposes they should loose ALL their citizenship rights from voting on down. Felons have proven that they don't care about their fellow man by committing that act.
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

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    Every case should be taken on its merits IMO. Set rules that apply to everyone are not the best way to go, but are proabaly a cost saver to society when considering the infrastructure that would be needed to make these decisions.
    When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.

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