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Outraged at the NRA: Why I No Longer Support The Nation's Largest Gun Control Lobby"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOGOFWAR01 View Post
    lots of good points and discussion -

    did anyone send an e-mail to the NRA stating - keeping my membership but the NRA will receive no more money - until the NRA stops supporting any form of gun control ?

    did anyone make a personal decision to not send anymore money to the NRA except for membership dues ?

    did anyone join the GOA, SAS, AFM, or SAF ?

    did anyone join the U.S. Constitution Party or Liberatain Party ?

    what would happen the ACLU anti-gun stance if all members of the NRA, SAF, SAS, AFM, and GOA ... joined the ACLU ? would the ALCU then have to change to pro-gun instead of anti- gun ?

    did you know AARP is anti-gun ? are you a member of an anti-gun organization - meaning AARP ?
    Excellent points, Dog!

    I love what someone said "when voting for the lesser of two evils, you still will end up with evil". www.ConstitutionParty.com

    You can also vote with your pocketbook, Hallmark - $ Million Moms March, Citgo = terrorist Hugo, Ford = $ homosexual advertiser, AARP, Ben & Jerry's, Levi Strauss, Sarah Lee, Southland (7-11), Sprint, Time Warner (http://www.vacps.org/NRA/support.html)

    Write letters to your legislatures and newspapers. (E-mail and faxes work but I think a handwritten snail-mail letter is more effective.) (It's that old-school thing again.)

    Attend town hall meetings, run for school board member, township supervisor, zoning hearing board. So few people actually get involved, that the few that do can make a difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOGOFWAR01 View Post
    lots of good points and discussion -

    did anyone send an e-mail to the NRA stating - keeping my membership but the NRA will receive no more money - until the NRA stops supporting any form of gun control ?

    did anyone make a personal decision to not send anymore money to the NRA except for membership dues ?

    did anyone join the GOA, SAS, AFM, or SAF ?

    did anyone join the U.S. Constitution Party or Liberatain Party ?

    what would happen the ACLU anti-gun stance if all members of the NRA, SAF, SAS, AFM, and GOA ... joined the ACLU ? would the ALCU then have to change to pro-gun instead of anti- gun ?

    did you know AARP is anti-gun ? are you a member of an anti-gun organization - meaning AARP ?
    I did. I spoke to the NRA person when they called about why I wasn't renewing my membership the last time. I told them why I wasn't renewing (yes I was polite), and told them I was giving my money to orgs like GOA at the national level and VCDL at the state level. I have no respect for turncoats or those who half ass a job.
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

    "Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the crap out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOGOFWAR01 View Post

    did anyone send an e-mail to the NRA stating - keeping my membership but the NRA will receive no more money - until the NRA stops supporting any form of gun control ?
    Yes, I did send that email and I've not received any sort of response from NRA.


    Quote Originally Posted by DOGOFWAR01 View Post
    did anyone make a personal decision to not send anymore money to the NRA except for membership dues ?
    I sadly made that decision on June 18th, I will not send another voluntary contribution to NRA or NRA-ILA until it begins to sound like NRA has become a no compromise, pro-gun organization. I'm a life member of NRA, so I don't send "dues".

    I WILL continue to contribute financially to the NRA Foundation

    I WILL continue to be active, as an instructor, in the NRA Basic Firearm Training Program.

    Quote Originally Posted by DOGOFWAR01 View Post
    did anyone join the GOA, SAS, AFM, or SAF ?
    I'm already a contributing member of most of these outfits


    Quote Originally Posted by DOGOFWAR01 View Post
    did anyone join the U.S. Constitution Party or Libertarian Party ?
    I've been a member of the Libertarian Party since 1974, but I don't vote exclusively Libertarian. I also don't vote for the lesser of two evils (DemoRepub), THAT seems like a wasted vote to me.

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    I have belonged to the NRA for 35 years, 30 of which have been as a life member or higher. It is the ONLY pro-gun organization that the people inWashington listen to. Nobody else counts. Why? Simple. It's STILL a grass-roots organization. It can flood a lawmaker's office with mail on a week's notice. The NRA has caused people to lose elections in the past, and will in the future.

    In my opinion, complaining about mailings is nothing but a cop-out. I get fifty times more from outfits other than the NRA, and so does everyone else. Toss it if you don't like it,along with the other junk mail. But read the ones about pending legislation that YOU can influence through mail or e-mail or a phone call.

    I figure the NRA has over four times as many dues-paying members as the NAACP. Ever think about that? We have a lot of power, and the libs don't like it one bit. Especially since the internet has expanded so much. Our message is positive and speaks to the rights of individuals, but the anti's message is negative. How else can one account for the amazing progress in getting shall-issue laws passed, even in states like Ohio, which didn't even have provision for ANY carry permits.

    And think of what it costs to become a Benefactor member. It's the equivalent of ONE nice firearm. ONE. Isn't that worth it for the benefit it brings? If everyone did that, we would be unstoppable.
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    Opinions expressed here are based upon Michigan state law ONLY. Other state laws may differ. Know and observe your local laws.

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    +1 Jeephipwr. Few things now-a-days are perfect and please 100% of their members. At least they are active!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormnop View Post
    Which is worse?
    1) A slow progress into a totalitarian, socialist state that most people are accustimed to and therefore accept as the norm,

    or 2) Preciptious change that shocks all good Americans into actually doing something and rolling back the clock on freedom.

    The lesser of two evils is still evil. I will not give my support to that evil. I say vote for a candidate who you think actually will do the right thing. When Hillary destroys our government, we might have made enough noise that people will know who to turn to.

    Of course, this won't happen - most people will hang on to this failing system by their bloody fingernails and pass on something a little bit (or a lot) worse to their children.
    Great post. Maybe all of us Libertarians should vote for Hillary to speed the process along.
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    again lots of good discussion:

    I believe "everyone" who owns any kind of firearm for whatever reason should be a NRA member, I never said do not join the NRA, I said just withhold or stop any finance support to the NRA except for membership dues. If we are not members then we have no say so in NRA matters, then in mass we cannot curving path of the NRA.

    I believe "everyone" who owns any kind of firearm for whatever reason should be a member of the SAF, GOA, SAS, and AFM, to make them stronger to try and keep the NRA on a straight path toward the Second Amendment.

    While it is good to write Congress, it is also good to write the NRA mass both when they support the Second Amendment and when they do not support the Second Amendment.

    Are you spouses and children members of the NRA, GOA, SAS, SAF, and AFM ? ... these are the other 66% of the Nation who should be members of pro Second Amendment outfits.

    The sad fact of the matter, some people do nothing, some people talk, and very few actually walk the walk by contacting their Congress and others at the National, State, County, and City level or write the NRA or join any organizations like the NRA, SAS, AFM, SAF, and GOA. APATHY is wide spread across the Nation, action is by a small minority.

    70 million gunowners and only 4 million NRA members ? what percent of participation is that ? then even smaller numbers for GOA, SAS, AFM, SAF. APATHY, let some else do their part for them.

    2008 is more than likely going to be a big turn in one direction or another. APATHY of the CITIZENS, will never allow this to happen and Democrats / Republicans know this and therefore are not concerned about the U.S. Constitution Party or Liberatains - what if 70 million gunowners join say the U.S. Constitution Party and voted for the U.S. Constitution Party runners at all levels ? who would be in power ? the Democrats no - the Republicans no - the U.S. Constitution Party - YES.

    Are the Democrats today the Democrats of 40 to 100 years ago - NO

    Are the Republicians today the Republicians of 40 - 100 years ago - NO

    So why are we still supporting today's Democrats and Republicians ? is the Nation just following with these parties like the mindless sheep ? or is it APATHY ?

    No one member will change the direction of NRA, but NRA members in mass can - a clear signal to the NRA is write the NRA - tell the NRA no more funding except for NRA membership - then also join the SAS, AFM, SAF, and GOA and the tell the NRA you joined these other organizations to keep the NRA on the striaght and narrow back too the Second Amendment which they often stray from to keep the Democrats and Republicians happy vice protecting the Second Amendment.

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