Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
Same with the ocean, which can stink and be noisy ... often at the same time.
I agree with everything you wrote, except this. What ocean stinks or is noisy? Unless you consider clean salty air "stinky", or the sound of waves "noisy".

I know there's some stinky rivers on the East Coast because of all the pollution, but every time I visit the ocean, at least here on the West Coast or in Hawaii, it's anything but stinky.