"Assault Weapon" ban

"Assault Weapon" ban

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    "Assault Weapon" ban

    I am surprised by how often I run into folks who tell me that they were fine with the "Assault Weapon" ban because "nobody needs an assault weapon"

    I then explain to them that the guns defined by the now expired assault weapon ban were nothing more than normal semi-automatic guns that have 2 or more "evil looking" features (such as a pistol grip) that make them no more dangerous than any other semi automatic gun.

    I also tell them that the gun grabbers will NEVER take their hunting rifle without first calling it a "sniper rifle." That usually gets their attention.

    We should not allow the gun grabbers to take any of our guns - we need to stand together. If we don't hang together, we will hang separately.
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    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
    'Nuff said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
    + 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
    +1 indeed
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    Assault weapons were not designed for killing...they were designed for self-defense.
    Electric chairs and gas chambers were designed for killing.

    No one is touching my 'black rifle'...
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    I tell my liberal brethren....

    To keep their weapons, don't bother banning them because they are going to need them when they cut and run from Iraq; the terrorists will simply follow us here. I reminded my Mother, regarding our family outings in downtown San Antonio when she and my Father nervously looks to me and asks if I am carrying whenever unsavory characters are on the opposite side of the sidewalk. I also told her that if her Democrat buddies were successful in running from the terrorists, she would have to call me when she went to the local grocery, that suicide bombers would start targeting supermarkets and shopping malls.

    Heck, my dear old Mom may have to start packing and become a member here to keep up with current events......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
    Great point Tubby45. Couldn't have put it better myself. We could make the same argument for the 1st amendment if someone were to someday say that they can ban the internet saying that we don't NEED foxnews.com & defensivecarry.com because we can read news just fine from the local newspaper. Luckily it's a bill of rights rather than a bill of needs, so no bureaucrat can decide which forms of communication are protected by the 1st amendment & which things we don't "need"
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    When I was in my concealed handgun training one of the other students made a similar comment about assault rifles. I quoted one of the signitures from another forum I subscribe to (M14FiringlineForum). "I don't own any assault rifles, just counter-assault rifles."
    But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
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    Good point bigiceman. When you think about it, the primary point of the defensive use of our guns is to protect ourselves from any enemy. Who says our enemy can't have a fully automatic actual "assault rifle" such as an M-16, AK-47 or the like (off-topic I know since they are not the weapons banned by the so-called "Assault Weapons" ban)? Wouldn't we all like to be able to fight back with an equal footing rather than simply a pistol vs. an M16?

    We might as well have an equal footing. There is enough room in my gun safe for several kinds of guns so that I can pick the best one for the job depending on who is attacking & what they are attacking with.

    Besides, I've heard that it is a lot of fun to shoot a fully automatic gun once you get over the sticker shock of the $200 tax you pay the ATF for the "privilege" of owning one. I hope to get one for myself sometime. :)

    By the way bigiceman - love your signature. Very well said. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
    +1

    Great statements. I am definitely going to use this one. May even have a T-Shirt made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swift View Post
    Besides, I've heard that it is a lot of fun to shoot a fully automatic gun once you get over the sticker shock of the $200 tax you pay the ATF for the "privilege" of owning one. I hope to get one for myself sometime. :)
    :)
    The transfer tax isn't the sticker shock. The shock is the price of the actual NFA weapon itself, with cheap Macs running $3K for a beat up one.

    In my line of work, I carry full auto and get paid for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    The transfer tax isn't the sticker shock. The shock is the price of the actual NFA weapon itself, with cheap Macs running $3K for a beat up one.

    In my line of work, I carry full auto and get paid for it.
    Good point Tubby. Now that I think about it, I'll end up paying more for the ammo than the tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    I remind them it is called the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Needs.
    Quote Originally Posted by bigiceman View Post
    "I don't own any assault rifles, just counter-assault rifles."
    Your darn right!!!!

    I will be using both of these comments in the near future. Liveing in California, the opportunity to use these lines comes all too often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swift View Post
    Good point Tubby. Now that I think about it, I'll end up paying more for the ammo than the tax.
    Absolutely right! I still kick myself for not buying the Sten that was offered to me for $900 in 1996. Grrrrrr . . .
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