IACP, Joyce Foundation and Rudi Giuliani

IACP, Joyce Foundation and Rudi Giuliani

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    Cool IACP, Joyce Foundation and Rudi Giuliani

    IACP has released an 'anti-gun study(?)' done by the 'Joyce Foundation'. Rudi Guiliani will be the keynote speaker at the IACP Conference in New Orleans on October 14th.

    Your local LE may understand and defend the right of honest law abiding citizens the right to carry and bear arms but not the politicion police chiefs. Below is just a select few ideas that are being proposed through the study.

    1. Gun violence prevention should be included as a part of the regular health education curriculum, added to existing drug and gang prevention programs, and incorporated into after-school and out-of-school programs, faith-based programs and youth leadership development initiatives.

    2. Law enforcement agencies should mandate destruction of all firearms that come into their possession once any law enforcement use for them is completed.
    Law enforcement is in the unique position of acquiring tens of thousands of firearms a year either though confiscation, recovery or surrender. These weapons should be destroyed, in keeping with IACP’s Mandatory Destruction of Firearms resolution.
    The resolution calls for all law enforcement agencies to adopt a mandatory destruction policy, which includes surrendered guns as well as agency-issued service weapons. Once a gun has become clear of evidentiary and court procedures it should be destroyed. This action helps to keep officers and residents alike safe from recirculated
    weapons.

    3.State and local governments should regulate and/or limit the sale of multiple handguns as a measure to reduce gun trafficking.
    While federal law requires that gun dealers report to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) if multiple handgun sales are made to a single individual within a five-day period, state and local governments may impose restrictions of their own. Such restrictions would enhance public safety by guaranteeing that certain precautions, including the notification of state and local law enforcement agencies, are in place. Examples of current restrictions include laws in California, Maryland and Virginia limiting handgun sales to one per month.

    4. The state laws should mandate that law enforcement remove all firearms and ammunition when responding to domestic violence incidents and when serving a domestic violence protective order. These important state and federal laws should be vigorously enforced by judges and law enforcement.
    State, local and tribal laws should be enacted to authorize law enforcement officers to remove all guns and ammunition from the scene of a domestic violence incident and at the time a domestic violence protective order is served.

    5. In addition to people in situations of domestic violence, other classes of people are at special risk of using firearms in violent ways. These include people with certain kinds of qualifying mental health adjudications and commitments, people with a history of drug abuse and people who have been convicted of misdemeanors involving violence.
    Federal, state, local and tribal governments should enact laws prohibiting persons with misdemeanor convictions involving violence, qualifying mental health adjudications and commitments, or a history of domestic violence and/or drug abuse from purchasing, possessing and transporting any guns or ammunition. These laws should be consistently and vigorously enforced.

    6. Congress should enact legislation to allow federal health and safety oversight of the firearms industry.
    The lack of health and safety oversight is particularly worrisome given the manufacture and sale of firearms that pose a unique threat to law enforcement and the general public, such as high-caliber handguns that can penetrate bullet-resistant vests, anti-personnel military-style assault weapons and .50 caliber sniper rifles that can penetrate armor plating from a mile away.

    Here is the report:
    http://www.theiacp.org/documents/pdf...ns/ACF1875.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by P7fanatic View Post
    1. Gun violence prevention should be included as a part of the regular health education curriculum, added to existing drug and gang prevention programs, and incorporated into after-school and out-of-school programs, faith-based programs and youth leadership development initiatives. Yeah, and we see how well those have worked so far. How about parents teaching their kids gun safety?

    2. Law enforcement agencies should mandate destruction of all firearms that come into their possession once any law enforcement use for them is completed.
    Law enforcement is in the unique position of acquiring tens of thousands of firearms a year either though confiscation, recovery or surrender. These weapons should be destroyed, in keeping with IACP’s Mandatory Destruction of Firearms resolution.
    The resolution calls for all law enforcement agencies to adopt a mandatory destruction policy, which includes surrendered guns as well as agency-issued service weapons. Once a gun has become clear of evidentiary and court procedures it should be destroyed. This action helps to keep officers and residents alike safe from recirculated
    weapons. What about keeping them safe from the recirculted criminals? I guess that one didn't make the list.

    3.State and local governments should regulate and/or limit the sale of multiple handguns as a measure to reduce gun trafficking.
    While federal law requires that gun dealers report to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) if multiple handgun sales are made to a single individual within a five-day period, state and local governments may impose restrictions of their own. Such restrictions would enhance public safety by guaranteeing that certain precautions, including the notification of state and local law enforcement agencies, are in place. Examples of current restrictions include laws in California, Maryland and Virginia limiting handgun sales to one per month. I've never understood how reporting this stuff is supposed to stop traffickers. All they have to do is buy one from several different shops, or *gasp* buy them illegally.

    4. The state laws should mandate that law enforcement remove all firearms and ammunition when responding to domestic violence incidents and when serving a domestic violence protective order. These important state and federal laws should be vigorously enforced by judges and law enforcement.
    State, local and tribal laws should be enacted to authorize law enforcement officers to remove all guns and ammunition from the scene of a domestic violence incident and at the time a domestic violence protective order is served. So, confiscation of legally owned firearms whenever your neighbors hear an argument... with subsequent destruction, I'm sure. Yeah, that can't be abused.

    5. In addition to people in situations of domestic violence, other classes of people are at special risk of using firearms in violent ways. These include people with certain kinds of qualifying mental health adjudications and commitments, people with a history of drug abuse and people who have been convicted of misdemeanors involving violence.
    Federal, state, local and tribal governments should enact laws prohibiting persons with misdemeanor convictions involving violence, qualifying mental health adjudications and commitments, or a history of domestic violence and/or drug abuse from purchasing, possessing and transporting any guns or ammunition. These laws should be consistently and vigorously enforced. How long until the "classes" of people at "special risk" of violence expands to include everybody (with the exception of the political elite and LE, of course. They're immune).

    6. Congress should enact legislation to allow federal health and safety oversight of the firearms industry.
    The lack of health and safety oversight is particularly worrisome given the manufacture and sale of firearms that pose a unique threat to law enforcement and the general public, such as high-caliber handguns that can penetrate bullet-resistant vests, anti-personnel military-style assault weapons and .50 caliber sniper rifles that can penetrate armor plating from a mile away. More drivel perpetuating the myths of "armor-piercing" handguns (no doubt the Five-7, without proper ammo), super-deadly assault weapons, and making accurate mile-long shots with ease.
    No surprise Rudy is in on this. I wonder if his cell phone will ring...
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    Why does this not surprise me? But wasn't Rudy accused of some possible "violent" confrontations by his ex-wife. Would that make him subject to the same scrutiny?
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    2. Law enforcement agencies should mandate destruction of all firearms that come into their possession once any law enforcement use for them is completed. Law enforcement is in the unique position of acquiring tens of thousands of firearms a year either though confiscation, recovery or surrender. These weapons should be destroyed, in keeping with IACP’s Mandatory Destruction of Firearms resolution. The resolution calls for all law enforcement agencies to adopt a mandatory destruction policy, which includes surrendered guns as well as agency-issued service weapons. Once a gun has become clear of evidentiary and court procedures it should be destroyed. This action helps to keep officers and residents alike safe from recirculated weapons.
    How about returning the property to the legal owner (if the weapon was stolen from the owner), and if the owner can still legally own one (i.e. not a felon, etc.)
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    Destroying all the guns that the cops can get their hands on will work every bit as well as destroying all the illegal drugs that they can. This is why we no longer have a drug problem in this country, don'tcha know.
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