Microstamping and lead hunting ammo bans signed into CA law

[Tubby45]

And our good friend Kennedy drafted a Federal version and is submiting it to the committee.

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[peacefuljeffrey]

It's time (long past, actually) for anyone and everyone in any way even remotely connected to firearms rights to GET THE HELL OUT OF CALIFORNIA.

And it's long past time for every single firearm and ammunition manufacturer to stop supplying the law enforcement agencies in California.

If they hate the gun industry so much, and guns and ammunition are so evil, why should we provide them any help whatsoever in running their idiotic state?!

I also wonder, does this law require the COPS to use microstamping and all this other garbage? Will the COPS be under the same requirements as THE PEOPLE? Will they have to re-equip all the law enforcement agencies in California with the new technology, or do they get a pass?

[BigEFan]

I also wonder, does this law require the COPS to use microstamping and all this other garbage? Will the COPS be under the same requirements as THE PEOPLE? Will they have to re-equip all the law enforcement agencies in California with the new technology, or do they get a pass?

Actually, not only are the agencies exempt from being required to buy guns that are on the roster, but now so are LEO's as individuals. Click here to read the AG's change in policy.

[Sig 210]

"It's time (long past, actually) for anyone and everyone in any way even remotely connected to firearms rights to GET THE HELL OUT OF CALIFORNIA."

Absolutely not. Build a fence around the place and make them stay there. Everywhere they go they try turn their new homes into clones of The Peoples Demokratic Republik of Kalifornia. Look at CO.

[BigEFan]

Absolutely not. Build a fence around the place and make them stay there. Everywhere they go they try turn their new homes into clones of The Peoples Demokratic Republik of Kalifornia. Look at CO.

Sig, I respectfully disagree. I live in a very small town that I grew up in. If this town were in any other state, save NY and IL, I wouldn't have any use for California. When I move and be sure it is a question of when not if, I will leave every bit of California behind me for the greener pastures of probably rural Oregon (far from Ashland and Portland for sure).

I wouldn't wish any part of California on anyone regardless of where I live. I can't think of one thing that I would want to change in another state to make that state more like California, unless of course you count rooting for the SF 49ers and the SF Giants.

[saltysquid]

With each passing day I grow more happy that I left that idiot packed state. Now if I could just get the daughter and grandkids to get the hell out of there.

[GotSig?]

The governator signed the bill.
To the Members of the California State Assembly:

I am signing Assembly Bill 1471.

While I appreciate and understand that this technology is not without limitations, I am
signing this bill to provide law enforcement with an additional tool for solving crimes
committed with semi-automatic handguns in California.

Public safety is one of the most important roles of government and I encourage all
stakeholders to work on improving this technology so that it may become an even more
effective crime fighting tool.

Sincerely,

Arnold Schwarzenegger



This bill, the Crime Gun Identification Act of 2007, would,
commencing January 1, 2010, expand the definition of “unsafe
handgun” to include semiautomatic pistols that are not designed
and equipped with a microscopic array of characters that identify
the make, model, and serial number of the pistol, etched in 2 or
more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the
pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case
when the firearm is fired. Those provisions would be subject to
specified certification procedures by the Department of Justice
regarding the use of that technology.

[Redneck Repairs]

Ahh but since the bill specifically mentions " unencumbered by patent " it may well be a " dead law " for 20+ years . folks honestly we need to read the laws , not just go all blogger on the subject . As i read this one it will not and cannot be applied before the patents on current microstamping processes run out . The musclebound austrian may well have done the gun community by signing the bill he did . he is muscle bound but not an idiot , and politicaly he seems to concede just enough to survive .

[Bob The Great]

Ahh but since the bill specifically mentions " unencumbered by patent " it may well be a " dead law " for 20+ years .

And the NFA is just a tax, right? Not going immediately into effect doesn't mean it's not a bad law.

there's a huge thread on this going here
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=33930

[rocky]

merged threads on this subject.

[*SA-XD4ME*]

Public safety is one of the most important roles of government

Could be his nazi upbringing.

[Fishinado]

Well I guess I better make sure I pick up all of my fired brass from the range so that some criminal dosen't pick them up and deposit them at a crime scene. What's to stop me from switching out the slide or firing pin with ones that don't micro stamp?...

Mr. Sig 210 your comments are rediculous. What a way to support your fellow gun owners.

[Nakanokalronin]

The 2 bad problems are:

Gnag members will pick up spent casings at a range and drop them all over the place at a shooting confusing police and going to the house of the wrong people. (Here in my state a range master told me they already do this, imagine with marked casings)

2nd are the reloaders. Would it be legal to buy brass with markings on them? What if you shoot an already marked reloaded case?

[coffeecup]

I do believe that I shall go into the fileing and grinding business. Located in Kalifornia, of course.