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    Urgent - PA members.

    Just got this from NRA - needs seen.


    Contact the Members of the House Judiciary Committee TODAY!

    At the request of Governor Ed Rendell (D), the Pennsylvania House
    Judiciary Committee has tentatively scheduled a meeting for Tuesday,
    November 20 at 10:00am, to vote on several anti-gun measures. The
    package of bills include one-gun-a-month, a requirement for individuals
    to report lost or stolen firearms, and legislation that would overturn
    Pennsylvania's current preemption law.

    House Bill 18, sponsored by State Representative Dwight Evans
    (D-Philadelphia), would further provide for limitations on the
    regulation of firearms and ammunition by local municipalities. State
    preemption regulating firearms was enacted by the legislature to avoid
    the possibility of thousands of separate firearm laws across the
    Commonwealth. Without preemption there would be a myriad of local
    firearms laws making compliance impossible for law abiding gun owners.
    In addition, this proposed legislation may also be in conflict with
    Article 1, Section 21 of the Constitution of Pennsylvania which states
    "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the
    state shall not be questioned."

    House Bill 22, "one-gun-a-month" legislation, sponsored by State
    Representative John Myers (D-Philadelphia), will prohibit law-abiding
    citizens from purchasing more than one handgun at a time, and impose a
    30-day waiting period between single handgun purchases.

    House Bill 29, "Lost or Stolen Firearms" legislation, sponsored by State
    Representative Jewell Williams (D-Philadelphia), would make it a crime
    to fail to report the loss or theft of a firearm to police within 24
    hours of discovering the firearm missing. This proposal would
    criminalize victims of crime and is ineffective.

    It is imperative that you contact the members of the House Judiciary
    Committee TODAY to strongly encourage them to OPPOSE this package of
    anti-gun bills!

    Members of the House Judiciary Committee are listed below:
    State Representative Thomas R. Caltagirone (D-127), Chairman
    (717) 787-3525
    State Representative Daylin Leach (D-149), Secretary
    (717) 783-9114
    State Representative Kathy Manderino (D-194)
    (717) 787-1254
    State Representative John E. Pallone (D-54)
    (717) 783-1819
    State Representative Don Walko (D-20)
    (717) 787-5470
    State Representative Ron Marsico (R-105), Chairman
    (717) 783-2014
    State Representative Lisa Bennington (D-21)
    (717) 705-7011
    State Representative Dan Frankel (D-23)
    (717) 705-1875
    State Representative Harold James (D-186)
    (717) 787-9477
    State Representative Deberah Kula (D-52)
    (717) 772-1858
    State Representative Bryan R. Lentz (D-161)
    (717) 787-8574
    State Representative Joseph A. Petrarca (D-55)
    (717) 787-5142
    State Representative Sean M. Ramaley (D-16)
    (717) 787-4444
    State Representative Greg Vitali (D-16)
    (717) 705-2089
    State Representative Chelsa Wagner (D-22)
    (717) 783-1582
    State Representative Jesse White (D-46)
    (717) 783-6437
    State Representative Jewell Williams (D-197)
    (717) 772-2004
    State Representative Tom C. Creighton (R-37)
    (717) 772-5290
    State Representative Craig A. Dally (R-138)
    (717) 783-8573
    State Representative John R. Evans (R-5)
    (717) 772-9940
    State Representative Will Gabig (R-199)
    (717) 772-2280
    State Representative Glen R. Grell (R-87)
    (717) 783-2063
    State Representative Kate Harper (R-61)
    (717) 787-2801
    State Representative Beverly Mackereth (R-196)
    (717) 783-2655
    State Representative Carl W. Mantz (R-187)
    (717) 787-3017
    State Representative Bernie O'Neill (R-29)
    (717) 705-7170
    State Representative Tina Pickett (R-110)
    (717) 783-8238
    State Representative Todd Rock (R-90)
    (717) 783-5218
    State Representative Katie True (R-41)
    (717) 705-7161
    Chris - P95
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    is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."


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    Post They Keep Forgetting About This. Section 25

    And what they are trying to do is illegal according to the PA Constitution.

    Reservation of Powers in People
    Section 25.

    To guard against the transgressions of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that everything in this article (The Constitution) is excepted out of the general powers of government and shall forever remain inviolate.

    THAT MEANS - that the right of the people to keep and bear arms in Pennsylvania without question is excepted OUT OF THE POWERS OF GOVERNMENT MEDDLING - which means that RIGHT can never be touched by government because it needs to remain a pure right as in "inviolate" as in UNTOUCHED.
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    I'll be speaking with my rep tomorrow.

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    "Fast" Eddie never did leave his Philthy-delphia ideas at home. Crime rate/murder rates are through the roof in Philly. Now he wants to export that to the rest of the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    And what they are trying to do is illegal according to the PA Constitution.
    It never stopped them before.

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    That is a very very true statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by American Pit Bull View Post
    It never stopped them before.
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    Anti-gun Governor for sure.
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    is it too late for tioga county to succede from the commowealth of PA???
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    Bumping this back to top.

    (NRA link) http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=3285

    Unless you want the following...

    ONE GUN A MONTH.

    DIFFERENT GUN LAWS IN EVERY TOWN

    PENALTIES IF YOU HAVE A GUN STOLEN


    CALL AND/OR WRITE THE LISTED LEGISLATORS!!

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    I just put a call into the geographically closest rep to me who is on the committee. Is everyone making calls, letters to all the people in the committee?

    Plus I donate to my state ILA.

    And I just saw yesterday that rendell appointed a new police commissioner who previously employed as leo in illinois and d.c.

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    Just got this email that you all might find of interest.

    Dear Friends:



    I am sure you are following the front-page news (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front...gun_bills.html)

    about Governor Rendell and his success in getting Judiciary Committee Chairman Thomas Caltagirone (D, Berks County) to agree to allow the Governor to appear before the committee next Tuesday, November 20th.

    The Judiciary Committee is the one committee that has the power to put three stalled gun bills before the General Assembly for voting. The bills have been sitting in the Judiciary Committee for almost a year with no movement. The Governor will ask for:



    1. A purchase limit of one gun a month in PA (HB 22)

    2. A law requires lost or stolen guns to be reported to police (HB 29)

    3. Passage of a bill that would allow municipalities to enact their own gun laws (HB23).



    Governor Rendell is also in support of a new bill sponsored this week by House Speaker Dennis O’Brien that would establish a 20-year mandatory sentence for shooting a police officer.



    This is an historic moment – for the first time in 20+ years, a PA governor is appearing before a legislative committee. We applaud Governor Rendell for taking on such a challenge and I hope you will join me to support him in any way we can. We are planning to ask the nearly 3,000 people who have already signed on to our Moms Against Guns web site to send an email to the committee chairman on Monday, and we are also asking you to please call or email Representative Thomas Caltagirone, the most influential person on the committee. Please cut and paste the following email message and send it on Monday, or call his office (717-787-3525) to tell him that you are supporting Governor Rendell in his effort to get the Judiciary Committee to move one or more of the bills sitting in committee to the General Assembly for voting. In our many calls to Harrisburg today, we’ve learned that the NRA is flooding the Committee with phone calls and email. Our side is not being heard! Please help.



    To send an email to Representative Caltagirone: http://www.pahouse.com/caltagirone/contact.asp

    Cut and paste this message or draft your own.



    Thank you for inviting Governor Rendell to appear before the Judiciary Committee this Tuesday (11/20).

    I commend the Governor for his leadership and fully support his plea to your Committee and the General Assembly.

    Gun laws in Pennsylvania must be changed now in order to protect our children and youth from senseless gun violence.

    Guns are being misused every day in our state; in every community. As a supporter of Moms Against Guns, we are not anti-gun or anti-NRA,

    we are PRO safety and we want to keep kids alive! Please present our request to your committee on Tuesday.

    We are voters and we care deeply about this issue.



    Thank you for your support and immediate attention,



    Lynne



    Lynne Honickman

    Founder, Moms Against Guns

    www.momsagainstguns.org



    It seems I got myself on their email list when I asked them some questions about their published deceptive statistics.
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    Guns are being misused every day in our state; in every community. As a supporter of Moms Against Guns, we are not anti-gun or anti-NRA, we are PRO safety and we want to keep kids alive!
    Hmmm - I think some logic wires have gotten crossed somewhere. This is the superficial approach which is so common.
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    Got a reply from John Pallone - obviously crafted in advance.

    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    Thank you for contacting me relative to House Bills 18, 22 and 29 and
    the proposed debate before the House Judiciary Committee on gun control
    legislation in Pennsylvania. I always welcome comments from my
    constituents and others on any issue that is before the state
    legislature.

    While I acknowledge and recognize that illegal gun activity, primarily
    in the larger cities, for a number of reasons is out of hand, I don't
    think we should throw the baby out with the bath water. In defense of
    the legal gun purchasers and owners, more restrictive gun regulation
    will not take "illegal" guns off the streets. This clearly is not a
    problem in the Southwestern region of Pennsylvania. The majority of my
    constituency is gun advocates - collectors, sportsmen (sportspersons) -
    hunters for game or sport, clay pigeons or skeet shooters, target
    shooting, and/or competitive marksmen (markspersons).

    Since this debate started last session in the House during the Committee
    of the Whole, the largest number of the contacts (both in district and
    out of district) that I received were generally against more gun control
    and a small number of the contacts (both in district, but more out of
    the district) that I received were for more gun control. While I am
    sympathetic to the problem in some areas, particularly Philadelphia, it
    is not symptomatic of the entire state, particularly Southwestern PA.
    Additionally, last year when similar gun control legislation was
    introduced during the Committee of the Whole and this year when similar
    gun control legislation was presented to this committee, when the bills
    were called up for a vote by the committee and/or entire house
    legislative body, the bills failed miserably.

    This is one of those conservative vs. liberal issues that puts
    Pennsylvania on the map as a state with a "confused electorate" - we are
    a democrat (blue) state but moderate or conservative (almost red) on the
    gun control issue as well as several other issues. The National
    Democrat message hurts us particularly in Southwestern PA and in most
    other parts of the state on this issue and you will find that the PA
    Legislature has a bias towards Pro-Gun Legislation and is not generally
    in support of additional gun control legislation.

    It really isn't as bad as the gun control advocates want you to believe
    it is and I will objectively agree that the situation may not be
    completely what the pro-gun lobby wants you to believe either. And I
    don't think the government is trying to strip anyone of the right to
    legally own or legally possess guns. I don't have a problem supporting
    reasonable gun control legislation, but I'd prefer to see the current
    laws enforced before we introduce and pass any new ones.

    The legal gun owners, the legal gun purchasers and the legal gun sellers
    are already complying with the law and will most likely continue to
    comply with the law; new, old or otherwise. The bottom line is that it
    is the "illegal" gun holders, purchasers and sellers that are the
    problem and in my opinion, the "illegal" gun activity will remain a
    problem, even if more gun control laws are passed. Let's face it, the
    law breakers aren't going to begin to follow the new laws any more than
    the law breakers follow the existing law now.

    Thank you again for contacting me on this important issue and thank you
    for your support. Gun control is most certainly an important issue, on
    both sides of the argument and I take my support or non-support of an
    issue very seriously. But, I'm a realist - I just don't think this type
    of legislation will stop "illegal" gun activity or gun crimes. I
    strongly oppose unnecessary gun control legislation and will continue to
    advocate for the sportsmen and legal gun owners, purchasers and sellers
    throughout Pennsylvania. If you have any questions, require additional
    information, or desire to discuss this issue in greater detail, please
    do not hesitate to contact me.

    Very truly yours,
    John Pallone
    State Representative
    54th Legislative District
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    OK I called

    > Tom C. Creighton so don't bother him anymore.
    He is a hunter and he is totally pro-gun and he is dead set against this entire legislation. He is already voting against all of it. [R]

    > OK I just "vented" to Jewell Williams office. [D]

    > Don't bother calling Greg Vitali - He took his phone off the hook. Your phone will squeal at you. [D]

    > Called Sean M. Ramaley [D] Asked his secretary to have him to call me back with his interpretation of Section 25 of the PA Constitution.

    > Called 2 more. Harold James [D] was one of them.
    I had to really hold my temper calling the Dems.
    I had to force myself to be polite and mild mannered and reserved...
    ALSO....Very tough! ~ I had to force myself to fake sounding like I was intelligent...
    and now I need to go down in my basement and slam the living crap out of my punching bag for a
    while. I'm done making phone calls.
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    Happy Update!!!

    TWO BILLS DEFEATED , ONE TABLED


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