Urgent - PA members.

[P95Carry]

Just got this from NRA - needs seen.

Contact the Members of the House Judiciary Committee TODAY!

At the request of Governor Ed Rendell (D), the Pennsylvania House
Judiciary Committee has tentatively scheduled a meeting for Tuesday,
November 20 at 10:00am, to vote on several anti-gun measures. The
package of bills include one-gun-a-month, a requirement for individuals
to report lost or stolen firearms, and legislation that would overturn
Pennsylvania's current preemption law.

House Bill 18, sponsored by State Representative Dwight Evans
(D-Philadelphia), would further provide for limitations on the
regulation of firearms and ammunition by local municipalities. State
preemption regulating firearms was enacted by the legislature to avoid
the possibility of thousands of separate firearm laws across the
Commonwealth. Without preemption there would be a myriad of local
firearms laws making compliance impossible for law abiding gun owners.
In addition, this proposed legislation may also be in conflict with
Article 1, Section 21 of the Constitution of Pennsylvania which states
"The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the
state shall not be questioned."

House Bill 22, "one-gun-a-month" legislation, sponsored by State
Representative John Myers (D-Philadelphia), will prohibit law-abiding
citizens from purchasing more than one handgun at a time, and impose a
30-day waiting period between single handgun purchases.

House Bill 29, "Lost or Stolen Firearms" legislation, sponsored by State
Representative Jewell Williams (D-Philadelphia), would make it a crime
to fail to report the loss or theft of a firearm to police within 24
hours of discovering the firearm missing. This proposal would
criminalize victims of crime and is ineffective.

It is imperative that you contact the members of the House Judiciary
Committee TODAY to strongly encourage them to OPPOSE this package of
anti-gun bills!

Members of the House Judiciary Committee are listed below:
State Representative Thomas R. Caltagirone (D-127), Chairman
(717) 787-3525
State Representative Daylin Leach (D-149), Secretary
(717) 783-9114
State Representative Kathy Manderino (D-194)
(717) 787-1254
State Representative John E. Pallone (D-54)
(717) 783-1819
State Representative Don Walko (D-20)
(717) 787-5470
State Representative Ron Marsico (R-105), Chairman
(717) 783-2014
State Representative Lisa Bennington (D-21)
(717) 705-7011
State Representative Dan Frankel (D-23)
(717) 705-1875
State Representative Harold James (D-186)
(717) 787-9477
State Representative Deberah Kula (D-52)
(717) 772-1858
State Representative Bryan R. Lentz (D-161)
(717) 787-8574
State Representative Joseph A. Petrarca (D-55)
(717) 787-5142
State Representative Sean M. Ramaley (D-16)
(717) 787-4444
State Representative Greg Vitali (D-16)
(717) 705-2089
State Representative Chelsa Wagner (D-22)
(717) 783-1582
State Representative Jesse White (D-46)
(717) 783-6437
State Representative Jewell Williams (D-197)
(717) 772-2004
State Representative Tom C. Creighton (R-37)
(717) 772-5290
State Representative Craig A. Dally (R-138)
(717) 783-8573
State Representative John R. Evans (R-5)
(717) 772-9940
State Representative Will Gabig (R-199)
(717) 772-2280
State Representative Glen R. Grell (R-87)
(717) 783-2063
State Representative Kate Harper (R-61)
(717) 787-2801
State Representative Beverly Mackereth (R-196)
(717) 783-2655
State Representative Carl W. Mantz (R-187)
(717) 787-3017
State Representative Bernie O'Neill (R-29)
(717) 705-7170
State Representative Tina Pickett (R-110)
(717) 783-8238
State Representative Todd Rock (R-90)
(717) 783-5218
State Representative Katie True (R-41)
(717) 705-7161

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[QKShooter]

And what they are trying to do is illegal according to the PA Constitution.

Reservation of Powers in People
Section 25.
To guard against the transgressions of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that everything in this article (The Constitution) is excepted out of the general powers of government and shall forever remain inviolate.

THAT MEANS - that the right of the people to keep and bear arms in Pennsylvania without question is excepted OUT OF THE POWERS OF GOVERNMENT MEDDLING - which means that RIGHT can never be touched by government because it needs to remain a pure right as in "inviolate" as in UNTOUCHED.

[Knuckledrager]

I'll be speaking with my rep tomorrow.

[LastManOut]

"Fast" Eddie never did leave his Philthy-delphia ideas at home. Crime rate/murder rates are through the roof in Philly. Now he wants to export that to the rest of the state.

[American Pit Bull]

And what they are trying to do is illegal according to the PA Constitution.

It never stopped them before.

[QKShooter]

That is a very very true statement.

It never stopped them before.

[Supertac45]

Anti-gun Governor for sure.

[bobcat35]

is it too late for tioga county to succede from the commowealth of PA???

[AKsrule]

Bumping this back to top.

(NRA link) http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=3285

Unless you want the following...

ONE GUN A MONTH.

DIFFERENT GUN LAWS IN EVERY TOWN

PENALTIES IF YOU HAVE A GUN STOLEN

CALL AND/OR WRITE THE LISTED LEGISLATORS!!

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[sojourner]

I just put a call into the geographically closest rep to me who is on the committee. Is everyone making calls, letters to all the people in the committee?

Plus I donate to my state ILA.

And I just saw yesterday that rendell appointed a new police commissioner who previously employed as leo in illinois and d.c.

[mcp1810]

Just got this email that you all might find of interest.

Dear Friends:



I am sure you are following the front-page news (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front...gun_bills.html)

about Governor Rendell and his success in getting Judiciary Committee Chairman Thomas Caltagirone (D, Berks County) to agree to allow the Governor to appear before the committee next Tuesday, November 20th.

The Judiciary Committee is the one committee that has the power to put three stalled gun bills before the General Assembly for voting. The bills have been sitting in the Judiciary Committee for almost a year with no movement. The Governor will ask for:



1. A purchase limit of one gun a month in PA (HB 22)

2. A law requires lost or stolen guns to be reported to police (HB 29)

3. Passage of a bill that would allow municipalities to enact their own gun laws (HB23).



Governor Rendell is also in support of a new bill sponsored this week by House Speaker Dennis O’Brien that would establish a 20-year mandatory sentence for shooting a police officer.



This is an historic moment – for the first time in 20+ years, a PA governor is appearing before a legislative committee. We applaud Governor Rendell for taking on such a challenge and I hope you will join me to support him in any way we can. We are planning to ask the nearly 3,000 people who have already signed on to our Moms Against Guns web site to send an email to the committee chairman on Monday, and we are also asking you to please call or email Representative Thomas Caltagirone, the most influential person on the committee. Please cut and paste the following email message and send it on Monday, or call his office (717-787-3525) to tell him that you are supporting Governor Rendell in his effort to get the Judiciary Committee to move one or more of the bills sitting in committee to the General Assembly for voting. In our many calls to Harrisburg today, we’ve learned that the NRA is flooding the Committee with phone calls and email. Our side is not being heard! Please help.



To send an email to Representative Caltagirone: http://www.pahouse.com/caltagirone/contact.asp

Cut and paste this message or draft your own.



Thank you for inviting Governor Rendell to appear before the Judiciary Committee this Tuesday (11/20).

I commend the Governor for his leadership and fully support his plea to your Committee and the General Assembly.

Gun laws in Pennsylvania must be changed now in order to protect our children and youth from senseless gun violence.

Guns are being misused every day in our state; in every community. As a supporter of Moms Against Guns, we are not anti-gun or anti-NRA,

we are PRO safety and we want to keep kids alive! Please present our request to your committee on Tuesday.

We are voters and we care deeply about this issue.



Thank you for your support and immediate attention,



Lynne



Lynne Honickman

Founder, Moms Against Guns

www.momsagainstguns.org



It seems I got myself on their email list when I asked them some questions about their published deceptive statistics.

[P95Carry]

Guns are being misused every day in our state; in every community. As a supporter of Moms Against Guns, we are not anti-gun or anti-NRA, we are PRO safety and we want to keep kids alive!

Hmmm - I think some logic wires have gotten crossed somewhere. This is the superficial approach which is so common.

[P95Carry]

Got a reply from John Pallone - obviously crafted in advance.

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Thank you for contacting me relative to House Bills 18, 22 and 29 and
the proposed debate before the House Judiciary Committee on gun control
legislation in Pennsylvania. I always welcome comments from my
constituents and others on any issue that is before the state
legislature.

While I acknowledge and recognize that illegal gun activity, primarily
in the larger cities, for a number of reasons is out of hand, I don't
think we should throw the baby out with the bath water. In defense of
the legal gun purchasers and owners, more restrictive gun regulation
will not take "illegal" guns off the streets. This clearly is not a
problem in the Southwestern region of Pennsylvania. The majority of my
constituency is gun advocates - collectors, sportsmen (sportspersons) -
hunters for game or sport, clay pigeons or skeet shooters, target
shooting, and/or competitive marksmen (markspersons).

Since this debate started last session in the House during the Committee
of the Whole, the largest number of the contacts (both in district and
out of district) that I received were generally against more gun control
and a small number of the contacts (both in district, but more out of
the district) that I received were for more gun control. While I am
sympathetic to the problem in some areas, particularly Philadelphia, it
is not symptomatic of the entire state, particularly Southwestern PA.
Additionally, last year when similar gun control legislation was
introduced during the Committee of the Whole and this year when similar
gun control legislation was presented to this committee, when the bills
were called up for a vote by the committee and/or entire house
legislative body, the bills failed miserably.

This is one of those conservative vs. liberal issues that puts
Pennsylvania on the map as a state with a "confused electorate" - we are
a democrat (blue) state but moderate or conservative (almost red) on the
gun control issue as well as several other issues. The National
Democrat message hurts us particularly in Southwestern PA and in most
other parts of the state on this issue and you will find that the PA
Legislature has a bias towards Pro-Gun Legislation and is not generally
in support of additional gun control legislation.

It really isn't as bad as the gun control advocates want you to believe
it is and I will objectively agree that the situation may not be
completely what the pro-gun lobby wants you to believe either. And I
don't think the government is trying to strip anyone of the right to
legally own or legally possess guns. I don't have a problem supporting
reasonable gun control legislation, but I'd prefer to see the current
laws enforced before we introduce and pass any new ones.

The legal gun owners, the legal gun purchasers and the legal gun sellers
are already complying with the law and will most likely continue to
comply with the law; new, old or otherwise. The bottom line is that it
is the "illegal" gun holders, purchasers and sellers that are the
problem and in my opinion, the "illegal" gun activity will remain a
problem, even if more gun control laws are passed. Let's face it, the
law breakers aren't going to begin to follow the new laws any more than
the law breakers follow the existing law now.

Thank you again for contacting me on this important issue and thank you
for your support. Gun control is most certainly an important issue, on
both sides of the argument and I take my support or non-support of an
issue very seriously. But, I'm a realist - I just don't think this type
of legislation will stop "illegal" gun activity or gun crimes. I
strongly oppose unnecessary gun control legislation and will continue to
advocate for the sportsmen and legal gun owners, purchasers and sellers
throughout Pennsylvania. If you have any questions, require additional
information, or desire to discuss this issue in greater detail, please
do not hesitate to contact me.

Very truly yours,
John Pallone
State Representative
54th Legislative District

[QKShooter]

OK I called

> Tom C. Creighton so don't bother him anymore.
He is a hunter and he is totally pro-gun and he is dead set against this entire legislation. He is already voting against all of it. [R]

> OK I just "vented" to Jewell Williams office. [D]

> Don't bother calling Greg Vitali - He took his phone off the hook. Your phone will squeal at you. [D]

> Called Sean M. Ramaley [D] Asked his secretary to have him to call me back with his interpretation of Section 25 of the PA Constitution.

> Called 2 more. Harold James [D] was one of them.
I had to really hold my temper calling the Dems.
I had to force myself to be polite and mild mannered and reserved...
ALSO....Very tough! ~ I had to force myself to fake sounding like I was intelligent...
and now I need to go down in my basement and slam the living crap out of my punching bag for a
while. I'm done making phone calls.

[AKsrule]

TWO BILLS DEFEATED , ONE TABLED


http://www.nbc10.com/politics/146495...=headlineclick

EDDY MUST BE STEAMING.