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    Scotus Is Going To Hear It / DC Gun Ban : MERGED

    www.foxnews.com is reporting scotus is going to hear the case !!!!
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    DC Gun Ban

    **Mods, please move or merge if need be**

    Just hit Drudge:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1


    Supreme Court Will Hear D.C. Guns Case
    Nov 20 02:09 PM US/Eastern
    By MARK SHERMAN
    Associated Press Writer

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    Cool that they are going to look at this before the year is out.

    So really...what is the probability that the ban will be overturned?
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    Great. Looking forward to a few more official details.
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    I am not holding my breath but - the outcome is going to be more than a little important in the general sense.

    Much rides on it.
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    ITS ON LIKE DONKEY KONG----

    However, the rules and questions have changed!!!!

    http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/
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    Great news! Now let's hope for the best.

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    I'm not too sure I'm thrilled about this. This could cut either way.

    " CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen says. "If the Court sides with D.C. and offers a narrow interpretation of the Second Amendment, we'll see more gun control. If the justices side with the gun owner here, gun control measures around the country will be in jeopardy."
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...r=HOME_3526489

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    Damm they granted cert to hear any part of the case . Now i will re read everything tomorrow , but a grant of cert is likely to go twards freedom with this court . IMHO the court will without a dobut decide that the 2nd is an individual right , but the question we all want to know is just what are reasonable restrictions of said right . That q will make many more cases for the scous , but for the first time they are taking up the issue . Interesting times .... as the old chineese curse says lol
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    Is it possible that they can rule in favor of Heller w/o that being a de-facto statement regarding "the militia is everyone" ?

    I'm sure they'd like to decide in favor of Heller but on the caveat that it is not to be misconstrued ... can anyone think of some leftist gymnastics that would allow a judgement for Heller but at the same time NOT imply something regarding individual rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    I am not holding my breath but - the outcome is going to be more than a little important in the general sense.

    Much rides on it.
    What rides on it? Even with a win, I doubt things will change that much. Outright bans might be rejected, but as long as "reasonable regulation" is allowed, what difference does that make? Ok, so DC and Chicago residents are not banned from owing a handgun -- rather, they would likely fall into the draconian NYC-style rules, which are essentially not very different.

    So, aside from the tiny handful of places upshifting from "outrageously oppressive" into "merely NYC-level oppressive," what difference do we see this making?

    I don't see this leading to mass-scale repeal of any existing gun laws, aside from total bans which are irrelevant to most of us here.

    What am I missing?

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    What am I missing?
    Not so much the win potential effects, other than strengthening our 2A hold - more the possibilities for many anti's to jump on the control bandwagon if 2A interpretation is not in our favor.

    Leave out for now the repressive states and consider more what a bad result might do for relatively gun friendly states and more so - the current ''borderline'' ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lance22 View Post
    Is it possible that they can rule in favor of Heller w/o that being a de-facto statement regarding "the militia is everyone" ?

    I'm sure they'd like to decide in favor of Heller but on the caveat that it is not to be misconstrued ... can anyone think of some leftist gymnastics that would allow a judgement for Heller but at the same time NOT imply something regarding individual rights?
    UHHHH YEAH.....

    the term Reasonable Restrictions.......Which SCOTUS is known for BTW.

    That might be even worse, now you open the door for AWB bans, capacity bans, to some politician in VA it may not be "Reasonable" to own a Semi auto.

    According to some states aka NEW YORK, CAli, NJ etc......reasonable may mean freaking blackpowder guns, I don't think this will affect us at all in the short term but down the road if SCOTUS uses the term REASONABLE that could be disasterous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs View Post
    IMHO the court will without a doubt decide that the 2nd is an individual right
    From the Associated Press story today:

    http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D8T1J9K80.html

    ...... Chief Justice John Roberts said at his confirmation hearing that the correct reading of the Second Amendment was "still very much an open issue".....


    That statement from the supposedly conservative Chief Justice tells me that we cannot be sure about the future ruling from this Court.
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    My heart just skipped a beat. I was really hoping they would hear this!
    "A well-educated electorate, being necessary to the continuance of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed."
    Is this hard to understand? Then why does it get unintelligible to some people when 5 little words are changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob The Great View Post
    My heart just skipped a beat. I was really hoping they would hear this!
    Bob---umm am I missing something but they are going to hear it.:
    “Are you a thermometer or a thermostat, do you reflect or become what is happening in the room or do you change the atmosphere, reset the temperature when you come into the room”?--Chuck Swindoll

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