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    Uphold 424 10%
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    Just voted -- still running 90% in favor of overturning the DC gun ban.
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    ... and that is the last we will ever see or hear of that survey. Had it been in favor of gun control, it would be today's headline.
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    4833 (overturn) to 552 uphold. Good work.
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    LOL
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    Cast my vote.
    Would you like to see the Supreme Court uphold or overturn D.C.'s gun ban?
    Choice Votes Percentage of 7560 Votes
    Uphold 738 10%
    Overturn 6822 90%
    Found this article interesting. The writer seems to think it could come down to punctuation.

    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...supreme_c.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    Thanks for the heads-up. It's a dangerously worded poll, BTW, for anyone who knows the posture of the case: it asks if the SCt should uphold or overturn the DC gun ban. Of course, the DC Cir. has already overturned the gun ban; the Q before the SCt is whether to uphold or overturn the DC Cir's ruling.

    Anyway, be careful how you answer.
    Yeah, I noticed it was a bit iffy... but the poll question should be answered "Yes" if you want the ban done away with. The question is worded so as to sort of ignore the fact that the ban has already been struck down. This question is not, "Should the SCOTUS strike down the lower court's decision" (the answer would be NO), but "Should they strike down (redundantly) the ban itself." The answer to that one, of course, is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEC View Post
    Cast my vote.


    Found this article interesting. The writer seems to think it could come down to punctuation.

    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...supreme_c.html

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    I think that writer is out of his mind.
    It's clearly not the commas that create the ambiguity; it's the inclusion of the first (two) clause(s) in the first place. And anyone with any kind of reasonable understanding of grammar knows that the first part of the 2nd Amendment (the "preamble") is just explanatory, and offers the reason for the importance of not infringing on THE PEOPLE's right to keep and bear arms.

    For the life of me I can't figure out why this guy is saying that it comes down to the commas, and not to "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state." This guy is off the mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    Thanks for the heads-up. It's a dangerously worded poll, BTW, for anyone who knows the posture of the case: it asks if the SCt should uphold or overturn the DC gun ban. Of course, the DC Cir. has already overturned the gun ban; the Q before the SCt is whether to uphold or overturn the DC Cir's ruling.

    Anyway, be careful how you answer.
    How true. You have to wonder if it was out stupidity that the poll question was worded that way or if it is a trick. Problem is a lot of people will not rationalize their answer. Bad poll.
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    Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said the Supreme Court should "reverse a clearly erroneous decision and make it clear that the Constitution does not prevent communities from having the gun laws they believe are needed to protect public safety."

    Which part of the public does Paul Helmke want to protect? The law abiding public on the streets that are prohited from defending themselves or the law abiding public that are allowed to protect themselves in their homes with their rifles and shotguns that have to be either locked up or disassembled? Or maybe he believes it's the criminal element walking the streets and invading peoples houses because they know the chances of resistance is practically nil.


    "Handguns are the criminals' choice of weapons. Eighty-seven percent of all crime guns are handguns," said Linda Singer, D.C. attorney general.

    So their ban is keeping handguns out of the hands of law abiding citizens but evidently not out of the hands of criminals.


    "We are united and committed to fighting for the safety and welfare of the district's people," Mayor Adrian Fenty.

    Sad thing is their fight is protecting the criminals more than it is the law abiding citizens.


    The city is looking at laws restricting guns if the gun ban loses.

    Already making plan to further restrict the law abiding citizen if they lose in court. I guess you have ot expect that type of insanity in a city that kept electing Marion Berry as Mayor.
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    It really is funny; every major online news outlet has run a poll in the last two days asking whether the 2nd Amendment protects an individual or collective right, and every one has ended up overwhelmingly in favor of gun rights...

    Is this an indication of where the court will probably end up? Well, you gotta figure that they're going to sit down to session knowing what the public polls have been saying... to say nothing of all the amicus briefs that will more than adequately inform the justices what history surrounds the individual nature of the right to keep and bear arms.

    Is there really even one iota of doubt that right is 100% on our side on this?
    The only possible way to get an unfavorable ruling is for truth to be utterly ignored. I just don't see that happening.

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