47 Senators Sign Letter On National Park CCW!!!!

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    Exclamation 47 Senators Sign Letter On National Park CCW!!!!

    Pressure on the Department of the Interior (DOI) to change the rules in National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges to allow law-abiding gun owners to carry guns for self-defense has just increased dramatically!

    **Forty-seven** Senators have co-signed a letter from Senator Mike Crapo to Dirk Kempthorne, Secretary of the Department of the Interior (DOI) asking DOI to allow state law to determine if guns can be carried in National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges in that state!

    The letter (and a link to the PDF version of the letter) is below.

    Virginia Senator Jim Webb signed the letter. Senator John Warner, as usual, was no where to be found.

    The NRA was apparently instrumental in getting this letter generated - good job. Now we need to help make this actually happen.

    For those who are not in the loop, the Dept of Interior allows lawful concealed weapons carry in National Forests, but forbids it in National Parks. This letter is an effort (started by VCDL a couple years ago) to get them to chage their rules so that weapons carry is governed by the laws of the states where the parks are located.
    Here is a link to the letter and the text of the letter:

    http://www.nraila.org/Media/PDFs/kempthorne_ltr.pdf

    United States Senate
    WASHINGTON, DC 20510

    December 14, 2007

    The Honorable Dirk Kempthorne
    Secretary
    Department of the Interior
    1849 C Street, NW.
    Washington DC 20240

    Dear Secretary Kempthorne:

    We write today concerning a longstanding effort to have the National
    Park Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service remove their prohibitions on law-abiding citizens from transporting and carrying firearms on lands managed by these agencies. We appeal to you on this matter in the interest of Second Amendment rights and consistency in firearms policy across federal public land management agencies.

    As you know, 36 CFR 2.4, applicable to the National Park Service, and
    50 CFR 27.42, applicable to the Fish and Wildlife Service, prohibits individuals from possessing a firearm on lands managed by those agencies - even citizens with valid concealed weapons permits.

    These regulations infringe on the rights of law-abiding gun owners,
    who wish to transport and carry firearms on or across these lands. Also, you will note that other federal land management agencies, such as the Bureau of Land Management and the Forest Service allow transporting and carrying of firearms on these lands in accordance with the laws of the host state. These inconsistencies in firearms regulations for public lands are confusing, burdensome, and unnecessary.

    For these reasons, we support an exception to 36 CFR 2.4 and 50 CFR
    27.42 to allow law-abiding citizens to transport and carry firearms consistent with state law where the National Park Service's sites and the National Wildlife Refuges are located. Such regulatory changes would respect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners, while providing a consistent application of state weapons lawsacross all land ownership boundaries.

    We appreciate the opportunity to share our concerns with you. Please
    treat this letter in conformance with all applicable procedural rules and ethical guidelines.

    Sincerely,

    Senator Mike Crapo

    Senator Max Baucus

    Senator Larry Craig

    Senator Tim Johnson

    Senator Jim Inhofe

    Senator Jon tester

    Senator David Vitter

    Senator Mark Pryor

    Senator Gordon Smith

    Senator Blanche Lincoln

    Senator Orrin Hatch

    Senator Byron Dorgan

    Senator Norm Coleman

    Senator Ben Nelson

    Senator Tom Coburn

    Senator Jim Webb

    Senator Judd Gregg

    Senator Lisa Murkowski

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    Senator Ted Stevens

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    I don't expect to see Kennedy (MA ) on the list of signers

    since the drunk is prohibeted from carrying himself, he uses his powers (in Legis) to prevent others from doing so.

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    Thanks... please keep us updated.. if you should hear or see anything else on
    this issue.

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    Good news!!!

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    Cool

    Well, I see my TEXAS Senators on it but I don't see Reid, Kennedy, Schumer, Clinton, Obama or Kerry on it. How could that be?



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    I thought Senators Clinton and Obama claim to support the 2A. I wonder why they didn't sign this. They must have been in Iowa that day.

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    Sorry to see neither of my senators on the list - Bond and McCaskill. I'll have to write them and incourage them to sign on, or send their own version.

    Since the Constitution says, "...the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", it's kind of amazing that a Federal agency can dismiss a Constitutional guaranteed freedom.

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    This is indeed good news. Nice to see that both Montana senators signed on. Both are Democrats, BTW.

    One minor correction, however:

    For those who are not in the loop, the Dept of Interior allows lawful concealed weapons carry in National Forests, but forbids it in National Parks.
    The Dep't of the Interior has no jurisdiction over National Forests, which are the bailiwick of the Dep't of Agriculture.


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    I'm assuming that John Bunning is Senator Jim Bunning from KY as google failed me on finding a John Bunning that's a Senator. In which case that's probably the first useful thing he's done since he's been in office. Yay!

    Didn't see McConnel on there, but not surprising. :( Claims to support 2A, but never really does anything about it.
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    Good direction - potentially very encouraging - thus far.
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    Harumph!

    FL is 1 for 2. Bill Nelson's name is missing.
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    I just sent one of my Senators a thank you email... Mel Martinez, way to go!

    and...

    Bill Nelson just received a request to strictly support our Constitutional rights. All of them...

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    Pryor and Lincoln both signed from Arkansas. Finally something positive from them.
    We will be much better off when we learn to deal with things as they really are, instead of how we wish them to be!

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    I'm in the Fla bunch, 1 out of 2.

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