47 Senators Sign Letter On National Park CCW!!!!
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December 18th, 2007 12:44 PM
47 Senators Sign Letter On National Park CCW!!!!
Pressure on the Department of the Interior (DOI) to change the rules in National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges to allow law-abiding gun owners to carry guns for self-defense has just increased dramatically!
**Forty-seven** Senators have co-signed a letter from Senator Mike Crapo to Dirk Kempthorne, Secretary of the Department of the Interior (DOI) asking DOI to allow state law to determine if guns can be carried in National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges in that state!
The letter (and a link to the PDF version of the letter) is below.
Virginia Senator Jim Webb signed the letter. Senator John Warner, as usual, was no where to be found.
The NRA was apparently instrumental in getting this letter generated - good job. Now we need to help make this actually happen.
For those who are not in the loop, the Dept of Interior allows lawful concealed weapons carry in National Forests, but forbids it in National Parks. This letter is an effort (started by VCDL a couple years ago) to get them to chage their rules so that weapons carry is governed by the laws of the states where the parks are located.
Here is a link to the letter and the text of the letter:
United States Senate
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
December 14, 2007
The Honorable Dirk Kempthorne
Department of the Interior
1849 C Street, NW.
Washington DC 20240
Dear Secretary Kempthorne:
We write today concerning a longstanding effort to have the National
Park Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service remove their prohibitions on law-abiding citizens from transporting and carrying firearms on lands managed by these agencies. We appeal to you on this matter in the interest of Second Amendment rights and consistency in firearms policy across federal public land management agencies.
As you know, 36 CFR 2.4, applicable to the National Park Service, and
50 CFR 27.42, applicable to the Fish and Wildlife Service, prohibits individuals from possessing a firearm on lands managed by those agencies - even citizens with valid concealed weapons permits.
These regulations infringe on the rights of law-abiding gun owners,
who wish to transport and carry firearms on or across these lands. Also, you will note that other federal land management agencies, such as the Bureau of Land Management and the Forest Service allow transporting and carrying of firearms on these lands in accordance with the laws of the host state. These inconsistencies in firearms regulations for public lands are confusing, burdensome, and unnecessary.
For these reasons, we support an exception to 36 CFR 2.4 and 50 CFR
27.42 to allow law-abiding citizens to transport and carry firearms consistent with state law where the National Park Service's sites and the National Wildlife Refuges are located. Such regulatory changes would respect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners, while providing a consistent application of state weapons lawsacross all land ownership boundaries.
We appreciate the opportunity to share our concerns with you. Please
treat this letter in conformance with all applicable procedural rules and ethical guidelines.
Senator Mike Crapo
Senator Max Baucus
Senator Larry Craig
Senator Tim Johnson
Senator Jim Inhofe
Senator Jon tester
Senator David Vitter
Senator Mark Pryor
Senator Gordon Smith
Senator Blanche Lincoln
Senator Orrin Hatch
Senator Byron Dorgan
Senator Norm Coleman
Senator Ben Nelson
Senator Tom Coburn
Senator Jim Webb
Senator Judd Gregg
Senator Lisa Murkowski
Senator John Ensign
Senator John Sununu
Senator Ted Stevens
Senator Robert Bennett
Senator Saxby Chambliss
Senator Thad Cochran
Senator Johnny Isakson
Senator John Bunning
Senator Wayne Allard
Senator John Thune
Senator Chuck Grassley
Senator Bob Corker
Senator Trent Lott
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
Senator Pat Roberts
Senator Mel Martinez
Senator John Cornyn
Senator Richard Shelby
Senator Chuck Hagel
Senator Lindsey Graham
Senator Elizabeth Dole
Senator Mike Enzi
Senator John McCain
Senator John Barrasso
Senator Sam Brownback
Senator Pete Domenici
Senitor Jim DeMint
Senator Jeff Sessions
Senator Jon Kyl
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December 18th, 2007 12:44 PM
December 18th, 2007 12:55 PM
I don't expect to see Kennedy (MA ) on the list of signers
since the drunk is prohibeted from carrying himself, he uses his powers (in Legis) to prevent others from doing so.
December 18th, 2007 01:01 PM
Thanks... please keep us updated.. if you should hear or see anything else on
December 18th, 2007 01:04 PM
"Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy
"A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing
December 18th, 2007 01:24 PM
December 18th, 2007 02:33 PM
I thought Senators Clinton and Obama claim to support the 2A. I wonder why they didn't sign this. They must have been in Iowa that day.
December 18th, 2007 02:52 PM
Sorry to see neither of my senators on the list - Bond and McCaskill. I'll have to write them and incourage them to sign on, or send their own version.
Since the Constitution says, "...the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", it's kind of amazing that a Federal agency can dismiss a Constitutional guaranteed freedom.
December 18th, 2007 03:14 PM
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This is indeed good news. Nice to see that both Montana senators signed on. Both are Democrats, BTW.
One minor correction, however:
The Dep't of the Interior has no jurisdiction over National Forests, which are the bailiwick of the Dep't of Agriculture.
For those who are not in the loop, the Dept of Interior allows lawful concealed weapons carry in National Forests, but forbids it in National Parks.
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And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier.
December 18th, 2007 03:23 PM
I'm assuming that John Bunning is Senator Jim Bunning from KY as google failed me on finding a John Bunning that's a Senator. In which case that's probably the first useful thing he's done since he's been in office. Yay!
Didn't see McConnel on there, but not surprising. :( Claims to support 2A, but never really does anything about it.
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December 18th, 2007 03:42 PM
Sometimes I wonder who the old man in the mirror is....
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December 18th, 2007 04:16 PM
Good direction - potentially very encouraging - thus far.
Chris - P95
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December 18th, 2007 06:03 PM
FL is 1 for 2. Bill Nelson's name is missing.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliott
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December 18th, 2007 07:05 PM
I just sent one of my Senators a thank you email... Mel Martinez, way to go!
Bill Nelson just received a request to strictly support our Constitutional rights. All of them...
December 18th, 2007 08:27 PM
Pryor and Lincoln both signed from Arkansas. Finally something positive from them.
We will be much better off when we learn to deal with things as they really are, instead of how we wish them to be!
December 18th, 2007 11:08 PM
I'm in the Fla bunch, 1 out of 2.
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