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    Yay! We win!!

    This IS like golf, right? The lower your score, the better you did!


    Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

    Florida Gun Laws
    FLORIDA
    Score: 8 out of 100 points
    State Ranking: T-32 out of 50 states


    FLORIDA STATE LAWS —
    Assault Weapons
    Are there limitations on assault weapons? No

    Ballistic Fingerprinting
    Must handguns be ballistic fingerprinted prior to sale? No

    Child Access Prevention - CAP
    Are gun owners held accountable for leaving guns accessible to kids? Yes

    Child-Safety Locks
    Must locking devices be sold with guns? No

    Childproof Handguns
    Are only authorized users able to operate handguns? No

    Gun Dealer Regulations
    Must gun dealers adhere to state licensing and/or oversight systems? No

    Gun Manufacturer Accountability
    Do cities have authority to hold gun makers legally liable? No

    Gun Show Loophole
    Are background checks required at gun shows? Partial

    Guns at Work
    Are businesses forced to allow guns in the workplace? No

    Guns on College Campuses
    Are colleges/universities forced to allow guns on campus? No

    Juvenile Sale
    Is it illegal to sell handguns to anyone under 21 years of age? No

    Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines
    Are there limitations on large capacity ammunition magazines? No

    License or Permit to Purchase
    Is a license/permit required to buy handguns? No

    Limit Bulk Purchases
    Is there a one-handgun-per-month limit on sales? No

    Limits on Concealed Handgun Permits
    May police limit carrying concealed handguns? No

    Microstamping
    Must new semi-automatic handguns be sold with microstamping technology? No

    Preemption - Local Gun Laws
    May municipalities enact law stronger than the state's? Partial

    Record Keeping
    May police maintain gun sale records? No

    Registration
    Are all guns registered with law enforcement? No

    Report Lost/Stolen Guns
    Are firearm owners required to report all lost or stolen guns to law enforcement? No

    Safety Standards
    Are there consumer safety standards on guns? No

    Saturday Night Specials
    Are there limitations on 'junk' handguns? No

    Shoot First
    Is deadly force allowed to be a first resort in public? Yes

    Universal Background Checks
    Are background checks required on all gun sales? No

    Waiting Period
    Is there a waiting period on gun sales? Yes

    ASSAULT WEAPONS
    Are there limitations on assault weapons? No
    Florida - No state restriction on the sale or possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons. Assault weapons are as easy to buy as hunting rifles. Congress and President Bush allowed the federal assault weapons ban to sunset in 2004. See also: Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines

    BALLISTIC FINGERPRINTING
    Must handguns be ballistic fingerprinted prior to sale? No

    No state requirement that gun dealers or manufacturers provide police with sample bullets/cartridges or digital images of bullets/cartridges prior to the sale of a handgun, �ballistic fingerprinting,� which would assist police in tracing bullets at crime scenes to the guns that fired them.

    CHILD ACCESS PREVENTION - CAP
    Are gun owners held accountable for leaving guns accessible to kids? Yes

    Florida - State law holds gun owners responsible if they leave a gun easily accessible to a child under 16 years old and the child uses the gun to injure or threaten someone. In addition, individual counties may strengthen their CAP law by requiring gun owners to lock up firearms when not under an adults control, in homes where children are present. Miami-Dade County and the City of South Miami have adopted such ordinances.

    CHILD-SAFETY LOCKS
    Must locking devices be sold with guns? No

    No state requirement that guns be sold with child-safety locks that could prevent a tragic accident. Child-safety locks cost as little as $10 and could save lives if sold with firearms.

    CHILDPROOF HANDGUNS
    Are only authorized users able to operate handguns? No
    Florida - There is no state law mandating that all new handguns be sold with 'personalized' handgun technology that would only allow the authorized user to operate the firearm. Childproof handguns play an important role in helping to prevent unintentional shootings among children and to deter suicides among minors.

    GUN DEALER REGULATIONS
    Must gun dealers adhere to state licensing and/or oversight systems? No
    Florida - No state licensing and/or oversight systems are required. Having no licensing and/or oversight system at the state level makes cracking down on rogue gun dealers extremely difficult. Requiring that gun dealers adhere to specific measures and holding them accountable for their actions and inventory will reduce illegal gun trafficking and help prevent criminals and other dangerous people from easily obtaining guns.

    GUN MANUFACTURER ACCOUNTABILITY
    Do cities have authority to hold gun makers legally liable? No

    Florida - State law forbids city and county governments from taking any legal action to hold gun manufacturers accountable, even when they act irresponsibly in the way they design, market or distribute weapons. No other industry enjoys such special immunity for irresponsible conduct.

    GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE
    Are background checks required at gun shows? Partial

    No state requirement that a Brady criminal background check be done on people buying guns at gun shows if they are sold by "private" individuals or gun "collectors." But counties may enact local ordinances requiring criminal background checks on gun show sales in their county.

    GUNS AT WORK
    Are businesses forced to allow guns in the workplace? No
    Florida - There is no state law forcing employers or businesses to allow guns on their privately held property.

    GUNS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES
    Are colleges/universities forced to allow guns on campus? No
    Florida - There is no state law forcing colleges/universities to allow guns on campus.

    JUVENILE SALE
    Is it illegal to sell handguns to anyone under 21 years of age? No

    State law does not restrict selling handguns to juveniles under the age of 21 by unlicensed sellers. Under federal law, only federally licensed dealers are prohibited from selling or delivering handguns or ammunition for handguns to any person under the age of 21. A strong state law is needed to stop unlicensed persons from selling handguns to those under the age of 21.

    LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION MAGAZINES
    Are there limitations on large capacity ammunition magazines? No
    Florida - There is no state law restricting the sale or possession of large capacity ammunition magazines that can fire 30, 50 or even 75 rounds without reloading. Ammunition magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds of ammunition are considered large capacity magazines. These types of ammunition magazines are available for any firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine, including assault weapons and semi-automatic handguns.

    LICENSE OR PERMIT TO PURCHASE
    Is a license/permit required to buy handguns? No

    No state requirement that handgun buyers obtain a handgun license or undergo any type of safety training prior to buying a handgun.

    LIMIT BULK PURCHASES
    Is there a one-handgun-per-month limit on sales? No

    Florida - No state restrictions on gun-trafficking such as a limit on the number of handguns that can be purchased at one time. Gun traffickers can easily buy large quantities of handguns at gun stores and resell them on the street to criminals. This is an especially severe problem in Florida. Because of its weak gun laws, traffickers buy guns in Florida and ship them to northern states with stronger gun laws, where they are later used in crimes. In recent years, Florida has been the #1 source for crime guns recovered in other states.

    LIMITS ON CONCEALED HANDGUN PERMITS
    May police limit carrying concealed handguns? No

    Florida - State law forces police chiefs and state sheriffs to give concealed carry permits (CCW) to anyone who can buy a handgun, allowing them to carry loaded, concealed handguns in public (known as �shall issue�). Some safety training is required to obtain the CCW permit. State law allows residents of some other states to carry concealed weapons in this state without informing local police. Also see: School Zones.

    MICROSTAMPING
    Must new semi-automatic handguns be sold with microstamping technology? No
    Florida - There is no state law requiring new semi-automatic handguns be fitted with microstamping technology, which would engrave on each fired bullet casing microscopic identifying markings that are specific to that firearm alone. This technology would provide law enforcement with another investigative tool to better solve gun crimes and apprehend armed criminals.

    PREEMPTION - LOCAL GUN LAWS
    May municipalities enact law stronger than the state's? Partial

    Florida - State law generally forbids city governments from enacting local gun laws, even though the state has failed to pass many responsible state-wide laws.

    But county governments do have the authority to lengthen the waiting period for law enforcement to conduct background checks and to require background checks at gun shows.

    For example, Miami-Dade County has extended the state's 3-day waiting period to 5-days, and requires background checks and waiting periods on the sale of all firearms, including those at gun shows and flea markets.

    RECORD KEEPING
    May police maintain gun sale records? No

    State law generally forbids police from keeping any record of gun sales. Police must destroy records on gun sales witin 48 hours and are prohibited from maintaining gun sale records that could be used for gun tracing and criminal investigations. The state has no way of knowing whether people who bought guns in the past have become criminals and are no longer allowed to possess firearms. The lack of gun sale records also makes it very difficult to identify and prosecute gun traffickers or gang members that buy guns in bulk and resell them on the street. However, there is a minor exception to the above law. Police are authorized to keep records of firearms that have been pawned at pawn shops. These limited records aid law enforcement in recovering stolen property and tracking down criminals.

    REGISTRATION
    Are all guns registered with law enforcement? No

    Florida - No state requirement that gun owners register their firearms. Police do not know how many guns are in the state or where they are. The lack of registration data makes it more difficult for police to trace guns used in crime, identify illegal gun traffickers or hold gun owners accountable for their weapons. There is no state system to automatically identify and disarm felons and other prohibited people who bought guns legally in the past, but later committed a crime or otherwise became ineligible to keep possession of their firearms.

    REPORT LOST/STOLEN GUNS
    Are firearm owners required to report all lost or stolen guns to law enforcement? No
    Florida - State law does not require firearm owners to report lost or stolen firearms to law enforcement. This requirement would help to keep illegal guns off the streets by removing the excuse used by gun traffickers that "lose" their firearms.

    SAFETY STANDARDS
    Are there consumer safety standards on guns? No

    No state requirement that handguns meet any basic safety standards. No requirement that guns be sold with a child-safety lock or a built-in �personalized� lock to prevent unauthorized use. No requirement that handguns have loaded-chamber indicators or magazine safety disconnects that could prevent unintentional shootings. The state Attorney General is authorized to independently establish handgun safety standards, but has failed to do so.

    SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS
    Are there limitations on 'junk' handguns? No

    No state restriction on the sale of Saturday night specials or "junk" handguns. No requirement that handguns meet any safety tests such as a drop-safety test or a firing-performance test. No restriction on the sale of snub-nosed handguns that are very small and easy to conceal.

    SHOOT FIRST
    Is deadly force allowed to be a first resort in public? Yes
    Florida - The state does allow the use of deadly force as a first resort in public. This dangerous law permits the average citizen to bypass our entire justice system by permitting him or her to assume the role of police officer, prosecutor, judge, and executioner.

    UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS
    Are background checks required on all gun sales? No
    Florida - No state requirement that criminal background checks be done on all firearm sales. People buying firearms at gun shows, swap meets, or through newspaper or internet advertisements are not subject to a background check. Criminal background checks are only required if the buyer goes to a federally-licensed gun store - all other sales are not subject to the background check.

    WAITING PERIOD
    Is there a waiting period on gun sales? Yes

    State law requires a 3-day waiting period for all handgun sales by licensed dealers. Counties may extend the waiting period to 5-days and apply it to long guns and sales by non-licensed dealers at gun shows and flea markets. The waiting period is used by law enforcement to run a criminal background check to make sure the gun buyer is not prohibited from acquiring firearms. The waiting period also serves as a "cooling off" period to help prevent crimes of passion.
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    SHOOT FIRST
    Is deadly force allowed to be a first resort in public? Yes
    Florida - The state does allow the use of deadly force as a first resort in public. This dangerous law permits the average citizen to bypass our entire justice system by permitting him or her to assume the role of police officer, prosecutor, judge, and executioner.
    Just one of the Brady Bunch's myriad lies and misrepresentations.

    Were the capable of it, they should be ashamed.

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    Sounds like you guys need to go back to school and get educated hehehehehehehe
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    I LOVE FLORIDA....!

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    You guys in Florida should be proud of that score!

    Montana scored the same, 8 out of 100! All right!!!!


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    We got 11, could be better imo

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    Whats really sad about this is it seems like there trying to pass themselves off as an agency that did some "OFFICIAL" scientific report. When this probably came from some liberal arts major compiling data based on their own very twisted rating system.

    For example FL

    FLORIDA STATE LAWS —
    Assault Weapons
    Are there limitations on assault weapons? No

    GOOD!!!!!!

    Gun Dealer Regulations
    Must gun dealers adhere to state licensing and/or oversight systems? No
    GOOD!!!!!!

    Gun Manufacturer Accountability
    Do cities have authority to hold gun makers legally liable? No
    GOOD!!!!!

    Gun Show Loophole
    Are background checks required at gun shows? Partial
    There is no such thing as a GUN show loophole->loophole implies intent to get around current law. This is a sale of private property issue not a gun issue.
    anyway GOOD!!!!!

    Guns at Work
    Are businesses forced to allow guns in the workplace? No
    Well your going to wish you did if your in that business with the next active shooter

    Guns on College Campuses
    Are colleges/universities forced to allow guns on campus? No
    Read above

    Juvenile Sale
    Is it illegal to sell handguns to anyone under 21 years of age? No
    Good to an extent Miitary personal should be excluded. From the 21 year age requirement along with Drinking.

    Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines
    Are there limitations on large capacity ammunition magazines? No
    GOOD!!!

    License or Permit to Purchase
    Is a license/permit required to buy handguns? No
    Good why do I need permission from the government to buy a handgun.

    Limit Bulk Purchases
    Is there a one-handgun-per-month limit on sales? No
    Good!!!!
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    Looks like Oklahoma is the real winner on their site...

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    Nope ok is tied with kentucky :)
    We both scored 2 out of 100
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    Need I say where my State ranks?
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    I demand a recount. 9 is unacceptable.
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    My state is a 20 grr... Scary how DC only gets a B with their gun control laws. Makes you wonder if it is a better place to live than CA
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    I am happy to report that MO scored a 4 and is tied at 44th place. We have got to lower that score though.
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    GUNS AT WORK
    Are businesses forced to allow guns in the workplace? Yes
    Minnesota - State law forces employers and businesses to allow guns on their privately held property. This dangerous law seeks to turn companies into criminals if they ban guns on their private property.



    Does this mean I can start concealing at work without any repercussion? I think they are twisting the words. I believe this is just to do with storing them in a vehicle in a parking lot. I do believe that business owners can still put up signs saying no guns. But hey this looks better, eh.

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    KY scores 2!
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