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    The Crime linking holster

    I really dont know how to write this one. I was watching CNN and the reporter was talking about the School shooting. A very interesting fact was broung to light. The shooter got online 5 weeks prior to the shooting and ordered a HOLSTER from the same website that the Virginia Tech Shooter did.

    You know what that is a serious peice of evidence. We need records of all the people that use this website and go ahead and consider them guilty.

    I am ranting sorry. To the point: Are you ready to have more restriction on the 2A because of a holster?
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    here is the site

    Company: Gunman, Virginia Tech shooter used same Web dealer - CNN.com


    DEKALB, Illinois (CNN) -- A firearms dealer in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Friday confirmed a bizarre link between the graduate student accused of killing five people at Northern Illinois University and the gunman in last year's deadly shootings at Virginia Tech.


    Northern Illinois University officials have identified the gunman as Steven P. Kazmierczak, an NIU graduate.

    1 of 3 more photos A Web site used to buy gun accessories by Steven Kazmierczak is owned by the same company that operates a site patronized by Seung-Hui Cho, the company said.

    Kazmierczak ordered two 9 mm Glock magazines and a holster for a Glock handgun from the Web site February 4, said a statement released by TGSCOM Inc.

    He received them February 12, two days before the NIU shootings, it said.

    "TGSCOM Inc. also operates the Web site used by Seung-Hui [Cho] to purchase a firearm used in the Virginia Tech shootings last April," the statement said.

    Cho killed 32 people before turning a gun on himself in that incident. Watch witnesses say they're in shock

    TGSCOM Inc. said it is assisting law enforcement in the investigation.

    Meanwhile, investigators searched a room at a DeKalb, Illinois, hotel Friday in connection with the deadly shooting, a source close to the investigation said.

    Police had been looking for a laptop computer, and one was found in the room and turned over to investigators, DeKalb Travelodge manager Jay Patel told CNN.

    A bomb squad also swept the room for explosives, according to the source.

    Earlier, Northern Illinois University's police chief described Kazmierczak as "an outstanding student" who reportedly stopped taking medication recently and became "somewhat erratic."

    Kazmierczak of Champaign, Illinois, opened fire on a geology class Thursday, shooting 21 people before killing himself. Five people were killed in addition to the shooter.

    Slain victims
    Daniel Parmenter, 20, Westchester, Ill.

    Catalina Garcia, 20, Cicero, Ill.

    Ryanne Mace, 19, Carpentersville, Ill.

    Julianna Gehant, 32, Mendota, Ill.

    Gayle Dubowski, 20, Carol Stream, Ill.

    Source: Northern Illinois University
    All the victims were from Illinois. The DeKalb County coroner's office identified four of them: Daniel Parmenter, 20, of Westchester; Catalina Garcia, 20, of Cicero; Ryanne Mace, 19, of Carpentersville; and Julianna Gehant, 32, of Meriden. See photos of the victims

    The fifth victim, Gayle Dubowski, 20, of Carol Stream, died at a hospital in Rockford and was identified by Winnebago County authorities.

    Three people remained in critical condition Friday afternoon.

    University Police Chief Donald Grady said people close to Kazmierczak have told authorities he was taking medication but had stopped and had become "somewhat erratic" in the last couple of weeks.

    Grady would not name the medication Kazmierczak had been using or the condition for which he was taking it.

    He said investigators had not determined a motive and are not aware of any relationships the gunman may have had with anyone in the class where the shooting occurred. Nor did Kazmierczak have any previous contact with police, Grady said. Watch Grady detail the shooter's profile

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    "There were no red flags," Grady said. "He was an outstanding student, he was an awarded student, he was someone that was revered by the faculty, staff and students alike. ... So we had no indications at all."

    Kazmierczak used a shotgun hidden in a guitar case and three handguns hidden under a coat, Grady said.

    Grady said he didn't know how many shots had been fired, but he said investigators recovered 48 bullet casings and six spent shotgun shells.

    The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said all four weapons were bought at a gun store in Champaign.

    Kazmierczak bought a Remington 48 shotgun and a Glock handgun Saturday, ATF spokesman Tom Ahearn said.

    He bought a High Point .380-caliber handgun December 30 and a Sig Sauer 9 mm handgun in August.

    The timing of weapons purchases could be significant in considering how long the shooter had been planning his spree.

    Champaign police recovered at least one weapon from Kazmierczak's apartment Thursday night after being admitted by his girlfriend, Chief R.T. Finney said.

    Authorities in Polk County, Florida, said police in Illinois had them question the man's father, Robert Kazmierczak of Lakeland, Florida.
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    Well, one thing's for sure----if you're a holster buyer---then you're probably totin' a gun. I never figured BG's would even bother with holsters---where do these deviants of society get their income from anyway? Government grants??

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    Any body bought from that site? They must have some pretty good prices.

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    A Web site used to buy gun accessories by Steven Kazmierczak is owned by the same company that operates a site patronized by Seung-Hui Cho, the company said.
    I just heard this trivia repeated on the news. Exactly what is the implied point?

    Are they trying to subtly say that there is actually some link between two school shooters and this parent company? This is about as ridiculous as announcing that both shooters frequently ate at restaurants owned by the same parent company. One preferred Taco Bell, while the other favored KFC.

    I'm so tired of the ratings games! All this does is put a bad light on 'gun groups'. "See, when the gunnies group together, they go on shooting sprees." "...there must be some evil place where they all congregate." "We must work together to ban all internet gun sites!"

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    It makes for a good news story. it is really a totally random useless thing that both shooters ordered accessories from the same retailer, but it makes a good news story.

    maybe they were both wearing fruit of the loom underwear too? Uh oh, fruit of the loom conspiracy time!

    Cho was easy for the news to poke at and "predict" that he had violent issues. This guy doesn't have any obvious signs so they have to make stuff up and play up the mental health angle. The media is afraid there MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD REASON for any of this so they are making reasons up.
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    On Fox they asked the owner of the webstores what kind of regulations exist to purchase holsters and pistol magazines online (which is what the shooter bought). He replied that those items are not regulated, but explained the process for purchasing a firearm online (was pretty vague and left out a few steps i.e. transfer to local FFL). Fox also cut off (of course, it was Geraldo) the president of GOA when he was trying to explain how student concealed carry could have minimized the casualties at both NIU and Virginia Tech. They shut him down when he brought up New Life Church (Geraldo insisted that it was a paid security guard that returned fire and not a CCW'ing parishoner that volunteered her services, and ended the phone call).

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    I'll bet Amazon.com sold books to each murderer, as well. That must mean Amazon.com should be villified for its role in contributing to the delinquency of two such obviously-troubled young murderers.

    Guilt by association has a long and storied history. Amongst unthinking lemmings, it can be a very powerful tactic to spread the effects of something that cannot spread by reason.

    CNN and others must be death-mongers, since they've trotted their stories to the "front page" for years. If it bleeds, it leads. Dang death-mongers.
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    I wonder if they both bought cereal in the same store? Who cares?
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    I was just talking to my bro about this today. ( He's from Illinois ).
    The will hear it and think it ties the 2 shootings together. This place that sold the guns and the holster is just totally irresponsible. You mean it's that easy to get a holster??? OH MY GOD!! ....... .....................................
    It's gettn bad guys.....

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    I would not be surprised if an Illinois representative introduces legislation to ban holsters...or maybe a 5 day waiting period on holster purchases. No wait, microstamping holsters.
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    What kinda Guitar case was it?

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