A Great Editorial from a "Liberal Democrat"

A Great Editorial from a "Liberal Democrat"

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    A Great Editorial from a "Liberal Democrat"

    I think this is a great editorial (maybe because of the writer's last name):

    The Right to Keep and Bear Arms


    As a person who tends to lean more to the left on most issues, I have to draw the line in the sand when it comes to the 2nd Amendment to our Bill of Rights. This one amendment, more than any other signifies our freedom. This is the marker that separates us from other countries and societies. We have the freedom and the right to keep and bear arms. We have the right to defend ourselves…..even from our own government.

    The repeated calls for repealing the 2nd Amendment, or efforts to diminish its intent, usually come after yet another disturbing incident that was allowed to go totally out of control, and then incessantly broadcast by what is supposed to be our news sources until we reach a point of saturation. This is quickly followed by calls for disarming American’s.

    Let’s make one thing perfectly clear here; If someone is intent on killing you or several of you, not having a gun will not stop them. People are poisoned, stabbed, strangled, beaten to death, set on fire and die from multiple causes inflicted by another individual every day of the week. This is not because American’s have the right to own guns.

    I find it odd that more people die each year from drunk drivers than from gun incidents. Yet no one calls for another prohibition. There are no passionate pleas to ban alcohol; no diatribes on how alcohol consumption is killing innocent people. Besides, this might infringe on YOUR rights.

    The right to keep and bear arms is not the cause of rampage killings. It’s the individual who decided to kill other human beings who is the cause. A gun can kill no one until an individual picks it up and uses it. Just like knives can’t stab anyone unless someone picks them up and uses them as a weapon. In a fatal car crash resulting from drunk driving……who or what is at fault; the vehicle or the driver?

    The flaw in all the arguments for banning private gun ownership is that somehow by taking away this right, everything will be just peachy. It won’t be. The same individuals who are intent on inflicting injury or death to others will simply find some other means of getting the job done. People are the real threat……not the weapons they choose. Taking away the right to own guns does not and will not reduce that threat.

    When the Bill of Rights was assembled, the second most important issue to the founders was this right to keep and bear arms. Of all the other rights enumerated, this was paramount in establishing a free society. They also knew that it is only when government has worked secretly against its own people they become afraid of them and seek to disarm them.

    The 2nd Amendment is the lynchpin of our freedom. As a nation we identify ourselves as free people by virtue of the fact that we can keep and bear arms if we choose to. And it is exactly this reason that so many want to see it repealed. The loss of this right would be psychologically devastating as so many would see it for what it is…..the true end of our freedom.

    Right now the major source for attacks on the 2nd Amendment, are being directed through the United Nations. Yesterday, Senator Obama put a bill on the floor of the senate called the Global Poverty Act. This act would mandate not only a 7% tax on our GDP, but also calls for the banning of small arms. Small arms and weapons includes, hunting rifles and shotguns, not just handguns.

    Attacks on the 2nd Amendment have come from all quarters. The efforts to paint it as “all liberals want to ban guns, and all conservatives don’t” is just more staging. The fact is, our government wants us disarmed; its just that no one wants to be seen as the perpetrator of this unconstitutional infringement on our rights.

    Using the UN to implement the disarming of America also makes us vulnerable to international law as opposed to our own sovereign laws. International law does not recognize the right of the individual to defend himself, claiming that to do so is a crime in its self. The UN also claims that this ban is necessary to protect women and children, and those who wish to commit suicide.

    This would be the same UN that sits by idly while hundreds of thousands die as a result of genocide. Where are there concerns about women and children and the suicidal then? While the UN twiddled its thumbs, nearly 500.000 Rwandan’s were clubbed or hacked to death with machete’s and knives. For some unknown reason the UN has not called for the banning of either machete’s or clubs, or even for large knives.

    The real aim of the Global Poverty Act and its intent to disarm America is to make sure that we have no way to fight back against the planned overthrow of our Republic. And as Americans, we most likely would. For those who disagree with this, don’t worry about it. Once the North American Union is established we won’t have any rights at all, much less the 2nd Amendment. One of the first things that will be done after the merger is complete is to abolish the bill of rights and then to disarm the public….. leaving you completely at the mercy of the military and local law enforcement.

    I live in central Minnesota which has a heavy Democrat base. In all the speaking I do to groups on various subjects, the issue of gun control invariably comes up. No one that I have come in contact with supports gun control or bans. The idea that “liberals” across the board are in total support of this gross infringement on our Bill of Rights is one of those carefully constructed arguments intended to divide us. It is our government collectively that wants us disarmed, comprised of Democrats and Republicans alike.

    I am one liberal for sure who will not support any form of gun control or ban, and especially not coming from the UN.

    Marti Oakley
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch; Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
    -- Benjamin Franklin

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    Very well said, and the absolute truth. Dang, now I like a liberal!
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    There are some things that I find a bit odd in this editorial. The writer (is Marti a man or a woman?) seems to think that the Bill of Rights are ranked in order of importance. Yet he only draws the line in the sand at the 2nd Amendment. Does he mean to say that he would not vehemently protest the repeal of other 'lesser' Amendments or is he only a poor writer?

    He thinks that the 2nd Amendment gives us our freedom -- if it were to be repealed, we would be indistinguishable from other countries and societies -- has he never read the Declaration of Independence? Could he not be bothered to skim through the Preamble?

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
    Overall, it seems to be a murky stew of occasionally rational partial truths and political whining. 'C+' Not bad for a so-called liberal.

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    Agreed Stan.
    The 2nd doesn't give us anything at all.

    What it does is merely recognize what was already and has always been a known and basic right of humans providing specific explanation toward it's usefulness as applied toward defense of a collective (e.g. "State") made up of "the People", and thus it's inclusion within the over arching Bill of Rights which in tone and intent are to be applied singularly and collectively toward defense of "the People".

    The Second Amendment vis a vis the Bill of Rights

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
    Again agreed Stan, not bad for an assumedly previously blind but now can sighted any person be he liberal or otherwise.
    His diatribe was far too long to say what in plain English can and has been stated in one sentence, as per the Second Amendment itself.

    Next week this same guy will declare that air is in fact clear and that ice is in fact cold supporting his assertion with a one page summation per topic. Meanwhile ask any first grader and they could tell you same inside of 60 seconds of conversation toward the subject matter, in total.

    - Janq aka "the People" who breathes air and is waiting for hell to freeze over
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    Well stated...
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