The Second Amendment Is Already Dead

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    The Second Amendment Is Already Dead

    I don’t agree with everything in this article, but he does make some very good points….


    THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS ALREADY DEAD
    By David Brownlow
    July 19, 2005
    NewsWithViews.com
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Brownlow/david43.htm

    Was the 2nd Amendment included in the Constitution to protect our right to hunt, our right to target shoot, or our right to defend ourselves from the local neighborhood hoodlums?

    While those may be important benefits of the “right of the people to keep and bear arms,” is that really why our founders declared it an unalienable right, and locked it in the Bill of Rights at the number two spot - right behind the freedoms of speech, assembly and religion?

    The short answer is of course, no. The 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the states and the people from being forced to suffer through another “long train of abuses” like the ones that led to the war against Britain - a purpose for which, unfortunately, the 2nd Amendment it is already dead.

    Sure, most of us can still hang onto our rifles, shotguns, and depending on where we live, our handguns – which gives the false impression that we have a 2nd Amendment that actually protects our right to keep and bear arms. But, if we are only allowed to keep the guns they tell us we can keep, and if we are only allowed to carry them the way they tell us we can carry them, then, that is not a right, that is not a guarantee - that is a favor.

    It would be more accurate to call it, “The permission to keep and bear the arms.” (2nd Amendment, Rev. A)

    What our founders learned from their victory in the War for Independence was that in order to drive out an occupying force, one must have both the means and the willingness to kill the occupiers in such large numbers that they lose the will to fight.

    Fortunately for the Patriots, they fought on a somewhat level playing field with the British in terms of access to firepower. They both carried the same kind of muzzleloaders, they had a similar type, if not quantity, of cannons and artillery, they had similar armor (very little), they both used horses to transport men and material into battle, and they had the same means (or lack thereof) to communicate with their troops.

    Based on that experience, they ensured (or attempted to ensure) our right to “keep and bear arms” for the expressed purpose of protecting the newly formed Republic from a federal government they feared would become every bit as oppressive as the one they just threw out. If they only knew the half of it!

    The 2nd Amendment was to be the safety valve of last resort to deal with any future attacks on our freedoms that could not be resolved by peaceful means. Granted, today’s guns can put a lot more lead downrange than the guns our forefathers used. But, as far as being of any real use for non-peaceful conflict resolutions against the forces we have allowed our government to amass?

    Assuming that we could actually muster up the courage to resist the occupation regime through the use of force - which is highly doubtful given the comfortable form of slavery we have grown to accept - we might as well be armed with bows and arrows!

    Here’s how we became so hopelessly outgunned. The 2nd Amendment was intended to guarantee; “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Notice it doesn’t mention anything about guns. It guarantees the right to keep and bear “arms” as necessary to the security of a free “state.” (Notice it doesn’t mention anything about the security of a free federal government either!)

    Once we allowed our government to arbitrarily define the term “arms” as strictly limited to a few select types of rifles and pistols, we cleared the way for the regulation of gun style, gun size, gun caliber, gun rate of fire, barrel length, magazine capacity, as well as the explosive power of the shells, the type of projectile that can be launched from our “arms,” and on and on. In other words, we gave up any chance of a putting up a real fight against our occupiers when we allowed the occupiers to make up the rules.

    But that is only half the problem. While we have permission to “keep and bear” what is essentially a 21st Century version of a muzzle loader, our federal and local police forces have been arming themselves to the teeth with the most advanced weapons and technologies our money can buy.

    Nearly every federal agency has formed it’s own paramilitary force, which is clearly outside the constitutional provisions of a national army and navy. This has resulted in close to 100,000 armed, increasingly belligerent federal agents lurking around the cities of this nation - with access to such unlimited resources and firepower they could challenge many of the world’s regular armies.

    Then, largely as a result of the phony “war on drugs” and “war on terror,” we have militarized our local police forces to the point where they are now armed with; helicopters, armored vehicles, SWAT teams, snipers, machine guns, grenades, body armor, infrared detectors, command and control systems, and electronic surveillance – all of which are made available as a force multiplier to the FBI/DEA/ATF/IRS whenever called upon.

    The final nail in our coffin is that if anyone ever actually got serious about winning back our freedom, the feds would simply call in the U.S. military, the most formidable fighting machine ever created, to pound the troublemakers into small grains of powder.

    So to all the above formidable capabilities of our various police agencies, we could add fighter jets, AC-130 gun ships, attack helicopters, M1 tanks, artillery, rockets, smart bombs, every caliber of gun known to man, surveillance drones, special forces units, and who knows what else!

    Many have been clinging to the false hope that as long as we still “have” the 2nd Amendment, there will always be the slight chance we could win a fight to regain our freedom.

    But, while we were off raising families and having fun living the American dream - with our heads planted firmly in the sand – our occupiers have been busy maneuvering the chess pieces around the board with great cunning and skill. Take a look around folks, we’ve been surrounded – it’s a checkmate!

    Sure, we might still have the ability to wage a little one-man revolution – for about five minutes! But for the purposes for which our founders intended it, which was to ensure that the several states would remain free from warmongering tyrants like the ones who have seized control of our country, sadly…

    The 2nd Amendment is already dead.
    Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1

    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    I try not to let my pessimism sink low enough to pronounce death - but the way that piece is written you can see why that is his conclusion.

    With however a seriously high quotient of ''permissions'' or even shall we say ''privelage'' - the actual 'RIGHT' element seems painfully over shadowed.

    I might be tempted to say - the 2A is no longer alive and well - it is let's say still alive, but seriously incapacitated and treatment seems for most part and at best palliative.

    A cure is hard to see in the works - and I know that is a pessimistic view even so - but, while the body still breathes there is always hope and the search for a cure can continue.
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    Interesting and thought provoking article.
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    The 'Right' has been seriously 'infringed', and we need to continue to work towards fixing it. The ammendment is still in place, and legally still the highest law in the land. The 'infringement' is all either laws that are themselves unconstitutional, or court opinions that disregard the letter and spirit of the ammendment.

    Hey guys, don't look now, but things are GETTING BETTER! The AWB is dead, Shall Issue CCW States _far_ outnumber non-issuing states. We have a statement from the department of justice confirming that the 2nd ammendment is a right 'of the people'. Would you have guessed that any of these would be true during the Klinton administration?

    Not saying that we need to back off, there's a lot further to go. The day that the '68 GCA and the '34 NFA are repealed, the beer's on me :)

    As for a violent uprising of the people aginst our government, I see something like the plot of 'Unintended Concequences' much more likely than a full blown war. Thanks for 'Plan B', Mr. Ross :)
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    I agree that things are getting better. We need to continue to keep the liberals at bay and vote them out of office. The article shows one of the most negative views of the 2nd amendment today I have ever read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian45
    The article shows one of the most negative views of the 2nd amendment today I have ever read.
    Like I said, I don't agree with everything in the article, but he raised some good points.
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    The original author doesn't seem to be a particularly creative thinker.
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    I read that twice just to be sure I didn't miss anything. IMHO it sounds/feels a lot like a promotional for a White Flag Factory. Giving up is not in my nature, and things are improving though the battle to preserve our rights goes on. I believe we will always have to stand up and fight to preserve the Constitution and all of its Amendments. We can't leave and go someplace better as our founding fathers did. We're in it here and now.

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    I don’t think giving up was his intention at all. I think he was trying to shock everybody by opening their eyes to how really bad things have gotten, and what even a little compromise means. Obviously anybody who cares about the 2nd amendment and is worth their salt is not going to give up. This article is designed to make them mad. It seems to have worked. It did for me.

    Like I have said a couple of times, I don’t agree with everything in the article, but he makes some valid points. Rise to the challenge.
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    Stop thinking M-16 and think Remington 700.
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    I agree that we are outgunned, individually. But although the intial few rebels would be wiped out, the cause would continue. No group of people would stand by and let thousands of their countrymen be slaughtered.
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