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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Today, it would read "All men, women, womyn, transgendered persons [...]
    Now, now, OPFOR, there is a much easier version to remember. "Any person not a conservative, white male is created more equally than any conservative white male."

    P.S. You know you hang out on DC.com too much when you start using the word "scruntiny" [sic] in everyday conversation...
    Last edited by kazzaerexys; March 31st, 2008 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Yes, I did mean to type it that way! :)
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    I don't think I've ever used the word "scruntiny," but I may start now!

    A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    I don't think I've ever used the word "scruntiny," but I may start now!

    That's why it's the easiest smiley for me to remember here! Gives me a chuckle every time I use it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    You ever notice how few 'disabled' people there were back in those times?
    They usually died.

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    The 2A grants a right to "the people" as they were known at the time to keep and bear arms. Later on, through the amendment process, it became illegal to differentiate citizens by sex or race. As a result "the people" written in the 18th century now applies to all "the people" in the 21st.

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    My definition of the ACLU...









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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Today, it would read "All men, women, womyn, transgendered persons, trans-specied persons, persons who do not wish to be associated with any gender, persons who do not wish to be known as a person, and any other type, class, specification, or individual not enumerated above, are created equal, unless and until any member or group of members of one of the above classes choose to exercise their individual or collective rights not to be equal, and with the full and complete understanding that being born is not, in and of itself, a requirement for this equality (or lack thereof).


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    We the...err, uhh...I mean...What I meant to say was.....We the....darn, I knew this one! Am I a 'we'?
    Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
    ---Ronald Reagan

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    Glad to see at least some are enjoying this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronwill View Post
    Glad to see at least some are enjoying this thread.
    Sorry about that Ron, I enjoyed this thread, too.

    I just happen to agree with the ACLU. Define 'the people' as the militia, accept the fact that the militia is everybody, and have the gov't give me a free machine gun.

    I would also like some free practice ammo.
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    People

    ACLU definition is agreeing to the EU philosophy.
    "Politicians and Bureaucrats, depend very much on the complicity of their victims, and like criminals, are flummoxed when we don't play the victim role."

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    I would not trust Wikipedia as a source...for a true academic discussion. Most of the data is unvetted or unverified.
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    You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    I would not trust Wikipedia as a source...for a true academic discussion. Most of the data is unvetted or unverified.
    Very good point, I did some more research and verified that there was a Militia act of 1792.
    The Militia Act of 1792
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    Today as yesterday, I am, "WE THE PEOPLE of the United States." We demanded and guaranteed that WE would always have a free and unfettered right to bear and possess arms in defense of ourselves and others. It is not a gift of government but rather a gift from God and God's nature. The second amendment only put it into words to remind those who would want to prevent me that THEY do not have a right to do so.

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    I've read several excerpts taken from writings of the "founding fathers" that answered the question, "What do you mean by "militias"?". Invariably, the term, as it was used in the 18th century, meant "every able-bodied male between 16 and 45 years of age". Basically, it meant "everyone" was a member of the "well-regulated militia" mentioned in the 2nd Amendment; therefore, the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right.

    I hope the Supreme Court finds this to be the case.
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