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    Man faces judge May 16 for illegal bullets | floridatoday.com | FLORIDA TODAY

    Man faces judge May 16 for illegal bullets

    BY J.D. GALLOP • FLORIDA TODAY • April 13, 2008

    PALM BAY — A 36-year-old man stopped by police for running a stop sign now faces a May 16 court date after a voluntary search of his home led to the discovery of several illegal exploding bullet rounds, officials said.

    Darren Bernard Lowery was charged with violation of a protective order for domestic violence and possession of exploding bullets after he traffic stop by Palm Bay police, reports show.

    Exploding bullets, which detonate on impact, are banned in Florida.

    Police said Lowery was arrested after he was spotted going through a stop sign near his home on April 1.

    Lowery, who had a concealed license permit, told the officer he had a .45-caliber handgun in his waistband.

    Officers also learned that Lowery had a domestic violence injunction issued against him by a Miami judge. Lowery said he had several other weapons at home, including an AK-47 and a number of smaller handguns, reports show.

    Officers searched Lowery’s home with his consent and found a number of weapons along with a box of .45-caliber exploding bullets, reports show. The bullets were seized and Lowery was taken to the Brevard County Jail Complex in Sharpes.
    HAD a concealed weapons license is the key word.

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    Why would you agree to a search? Stupid ! It will take a warrant to search anything of mine(period)
    At least then you have a fighting chance to get whatever suppressed !
    Why would you tell them what you had at home? Stupid!
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    I don't believe there is an automated process whereby one's CCW is revoked on the spot upon issuance of a domestic injunction. There should be a process in place, but I haven't read where any states have that provision.

    This guy is an idiot and deserves time and a lot more. People like this give us honest, LEGAL people a bad image. Yes, he should have demanded a warrant for his home, buthe had the ammo on his person and it was discovered during the traffic stop. That in itself is enough to jail him.
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    weird.what do they call this round? example-
    the black talon was banned and called " an inhumane round".
    can you explain a humane round?
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    after a voluntary search of his home led to the discovery of several illegal exploding bullet rounds, officials said.

    They had nothing on him until he let them search his house!!
    I'm not saying you should have anything illegal but, if you do don't give them permission to go find it.
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    Officers are taught (and learn) to be sneaky about getting consent to search. Never give consent to search anything...officers will ask to search and that is there way of bypassing the need to get a warrant. Make them work if they think there is something wrong.

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    I have to agree, this guy was an idiot. "Sure officer, come on over and go through my house. Oh, by the way, don't look under the bed!"
    Not so worried about the domestic violence protective order. Article doesn't say when it was issued, or if he had been served with it.
    Not sure what constitutes an exploding bullet.

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    I didn't know those were illegal. They have them on ammunitiontogo.com, I almost bought some.

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    There must be more to this story; I cannot believe that a simple traffic stop for running a stop sign could possibly lead to a "voluntary house search". yes the guy was really stupid for allowing that, and he will probably pay a steep price for it.
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    This is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER NEVER NEVER consent to any search of anything. ALWAYS require a warrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    I have to agree, this guy was an idiot. "Sure officer, come on over and go through my house. Oh, by the way, don't look under the bed!"
    Not so worried about the domestic violence protective order. Article doesn't say when it was issued, or if he had been served with it.
    Not sure what constitutes an exploding bullet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Florida Statutes 790.31
    (b) "Exploding bullet" means any bullet that can be fired from any firearm, if such bullet is designed or altered so as to detonate or forcibly break up through the use of an explosive or deflagrant contained wholly or partially within or attached to such bullet. The term does not include any bullet designed to expand or break up through the mechanical forces of impact alone or any signaling device or pest control device not designed to impact on any target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper58 View Post
    I don't believe there is an automated process whereby one's CCW is revoked on the spot upon issuance of a domestic injunction. There should be a process in place, but I haven't read where any states have that provision.
    As soon as the restraining order was served, he became ineligible under Florida law to have a CWFL.

    The moment you become ineligible, your CWFL is null and void.

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    Matt, thanks for the definition.

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    No problem.

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    So can anyone have a restraining order put on anyone for any reason?
    I was under the impression that (around here) for $75.00 you can get a restraining order for someone without any police investigation.
    If someone puts a restraining order against you, you lose your permit?
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