This is a discussion on VIDEO: Clinton and Obama Debate on Gun control within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Janq Agreed Rob Also the part where Clinton goes on about having talked to people in "Upstate New York" about guns and ...
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There seem to be two common misperceptions that are at play, both on this forum and elsewhere.
1. Politicians care whether or not what they say is factually accurate. In point of fact, most politicians care whether or not what they say will get them elected. That is their primary motivation. There are, of course, exceptions, but only a few.
2. Politicians can be trusted. This is extremely dangerous. There has never existed a government of any kind which did not tend towards increasing its own power over time. We ignore this axiom at our own peril. Political power can only come at the expense of personal freedom.
It's just electioneering flatulence.
Neither believe we have any rights other than to pay taxes and do what they say, but certainly not what they do.
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I find it interesting that in one sentence Clinton says what "works" in NY certainly isn't going to "work" in Montana and that the local governments should be making the gun laws and yet just a few minutes before she was telling everyone how she would reinstate the national "assault" weapons ban.
And the fact that she believes that the fist AWB had any affect on crime at all, just goes to she how far in the sand her head actually is and how little she cares about what the facts atually say. Especially when those facts don't fit her agenda.
I would also like to see both of them asked how the anti-gun laws that they favor don't directly contradict the phrase "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" as found in the amendent that protects our individual right that they both agree exists.
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Saw it live...both made me puke...
"That I cannot do."
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I was channel surfing during a commercial break during Criminal Minds.. jumped on the channel right as they started speaking on guns.. I started laughing and yelling at the TV.. it did nothing but get me weird looks from my gf. I called my friend who is a liberal gun owner.. he's actually a Clinton delegate something or other.. going to some demo thing here in CO... I bet they don't know he has a .50 :) They'd kick him out.. I told him if he is ever allowed to ask them direct questions I'll make him a list.
And the scum out there will always have weapons to use against you. Last I heard, certain drugs were illegal, but they are everywhere. Dirt bags don't care about laws.
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I tried to watch the video and my computer puked on me!!!!!!!!!!
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But as a point of clarification....Hellery is NOT from NY or NYC....she's the modern day carpetbagger that was trolling for a Senate seat and the majority of people of NY were too stupid to figure that out. As a result, we all have to deal with hellery's buffoonery.
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As usual. I don't think anything Hillary said was true, except that she wants to reinstate the ban.
As for Obamer, Please!
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Tracking illegal guns? WTH kinda stupid crap is that?
Do you all really think these guys are this clueless, or they simply act this way to appeal to the shee...masses?
blah, blah, blah....
That was the most elementary debate I have ever seen. Those to could not answer a question with a straight answer if the Jesus himself asked the question.
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Yep....you are correct.But as a point of clarification....Hellery is NOT from NY or NYC....she's the modern day carpetbagger that was trolling for a Senate seat and the majority of people of NY were too stupid to figure that out. As a result, we all have to deal with hellery's buffoonery.
She started out as just another ugly woman from Arkansas.
Now...shes just another ugly woman that lives in NYC and with her history of extreme leftist leanings its a good a place for her as any.
At least she aint here.
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