Blech. Why did you have to post that around lunch time? Totally put me off my food....
Good grief! These two are complete tools!!
No surprise from either of them really. Leopards don't change their spots.
Double-talk Double-talk Double-talk
Blah blah blah.....blather blather blather
didn't really hear much after that.
That part of the debate was garbage.
Also the specific question asked by the misinformed moderator toward the candidates opinions on 'facts' that simply were not true or even the case of the Heller case. The DC Law and Heller is not toward "sawed off shotguns", "Short barrel rifles", and "machine guns"...all of which are and have long before DC been under the controlled regulation of the FEDERAL govt. (!). Hello!!!McFly!!!
To which Obama states that he is not up to date on the details even as he would have one believe he is toward 'guns' in general even as this case is not exactly minor. Further he doesn't even know enough to respond to Charlie's question with a correction that the case and DC law is _not_ about sawed off shotguns, short barrel rifles, and machine guns.
They both state they "do not have the facts" (Clinton), and Clinton in specific never answered Georges's question about DC.
That whole deal in specific to guns was garbage.
They both affirmed that they will not hurt hunters or hunting.
If they can pass a law saying that you cannot have a shotgun even in your own house, how does that not affect hunting?
If they say your remington 7400 deer rifle is now an assault rifle, how does that not affect hunting?
If your Ruger Alaskan, which you purchased for taking deer is criminalized by a handgun-ban, how does that not affect hunting?
If ammo prices are taxed to death as a way of punishing the 'gun industry', how does that not affect hunting?
They keep telling the same lie over and over: Their anti-gun legislation will not hurt hunters or hunting ... and for some reason there are a lot of hunters out there who believe it.
Never has so much been spoken, but so little said.
And that seems to happen anytime a politician opens his (her) mouth, no matter which party...... :frown:
Obama, 4:56 into the clip:
We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands...
WOW!! IS HE JUST THAT GOOD????
That has been proven, in other countries as well as numberous cities in the USA, to be ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE!
What scares me the most is the number of sheeple that will believe him.
I fact while watching live I stated to my wife that this was the first time I've ever seen "sport shooters" in specific come up in the discussion toward this subject. always in the past it's been about hunters, so called rural living folk, and 'tradition'.
I'm from the city, never went hunting in my life, had no tradition passed down to my by my folk but to _fear_ guns and people who possessed them (including the po-po to which my dad was for DC )...and yet look at me now. Chaaaaannnnngggggeeee!!!
Also the part where Clinton goes on about having talked to people in "Upstate New York" about guns and hunting and how they are happy.
Huh...what?! Who has she been talking to? The New York staters I hear of broadly via many gunfu boards are largely pissed about their state laws toward gun controls and licensing (!).
Again that whole thing was garbage, but We the people will eat it up because it sounded good or rather good enough for those who don't know any better.
Oh and I also like how Clinton does her none answer answers and peppered one of them with a made up statistic percentage to reinforce her overall point.
Its all BS.
Anyone that votes for either one gets what they deserve...
A President that excells in BS.
Obama: "Just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state and local government can't constrait the excersise of that right."
Sounds like Obama believes in the Bill of Priviledges and not the Bill of Rights.
That both hate guns and equate owning one to being a criminal. Plain and simple.
One from Chicago,an extremely antigun city and the other from NYC another extremely antigun city.
Like I said before, we as a nation are screwed.
Obama STRONGLY supports your 2nd Amendment RIGHT to Keep & Bear Arms...as long as Local & State Government also have the Greater RIGHT to manipulate Your Individual Right any way they see fit.
Now do you understand how Obama is our friend?
Obama have extremely forked tongue. :yup: