Shootings in Chicago

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    Shootings in Chicago

    Chicago plans show of force to deter its killing season - CNN.com

    I find this surprising...guns are illegal in Chicago aren't they??
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    Has is it that these people do not understand that the tougher gun laws are, the more violent crime occurs?

    Do they look at statistics? Or ever wonder about how no matter what laws they pass, it doesn't seem to help? Or are they just so set for a nationwide gun ban, that they don't look any further?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    Has is it that these people do not understand that the tougher gun laws are, the more violent crime occurs?

    Do they look at statistics? Or ever wonder about how no matter what laws they pass, it doesn't seem to help? Or are they just so set for a nationwide gun ban, that they don't look any further?
    The only logical conclusion to draw is that those in power want more gun violence, as this gins up an emotional response from their constituents, as well as others who read the news stories. These folks in power can then play on the emotions of those who vote for them to get them to go along with increasingly restrictive gun laws, with the goal to be a ban on sales & confiscation of existing arms.

    This has to be done through the emotions, because it is - as all of us here know - completely illogical and contrary to all available evidence. Logic & rationality is not the anti's friend - emotion is.

    But there I go creating a logical argument for an emotional problem - aaarrgh!
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    Let IL vote themselves into a defenseless, unaware, group of ...wait, they've already accomplished that...

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    Stay armed...somewhere other than IL or WI...stay safe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Stay armed...somewhere other than IL or WI...stay safe!
    Fortunately, WI will become a free state at some point in the not-too-distant future. The votes are in the legislature, we just need a governor who cares about personal responsibility & individual liberty. It'll happen...

    I have no hope for IL though - I avoid it whenever possible.
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    I'm sure Chicago politicians are saying its all those illegal guns coming in from down state. So IL needs a statewide handgun ban and ban on all semi-auto long guns. Next step is rounding up all the already owned guns in the state by offering cash for volunteering your guns. Then they will blame IN, WI, IA, MO, and KY.

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    Has anybody noticed that Daley basically transformed Chicago into a mini Third World Police State? I wonder what the LEOs in this board think of the misuse of SWAT and other teams for stuff like this.
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    My family lives right outside Chicago. They know I hunt, shoot guns and interested my wife and kids to the sport......Lol, They say" you need to carry a gun for protection?" they do not understand....I tell tell them some day you will...Like right now!... butn they do not. My brothers wife is an anti-gun wacko...will not let her kids play with squirt guns??? I tell her baaaaaaa!
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    The solution is too simple for Mayor Daley to grasp.

    Mandatory prison time for a gun crime. No plea bargain. No appeal. Serve the entire sentence, no parole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    Has anybody noticed that Daley basically transformed Chicago into a mini Third World Police State? I wonder what the LEOs in this board think of the misuse of SWAT and other teams for stuff like this.
    I'll admit it might be fun, but this isnt the role and mission SWAT is designed for. Maybe they have prepped for this type of thing but I doubt it.

    I know I'd be ticked on a few different levels and reasons if the dork of a mayor/city clowncil put SWAT out in my neighborhood.

    On the other hand, this is the bed the people of Chicago made, I hope they are enjoying it.
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    Let's call out the Illinois National Guard. It's time for Martial law. Maybe the Chicago police are just out gunned, lets get them a few grenade launchers, a couple A10s, and some black hawk helos.

    I was watching Fox News today and they said that rank and file street officers were being issued M4s. They showed a picture of my exact model of Rock River Arms M4.

    There will never be enough Chicago Police Officers to stop this problem. The numbers just can't get high enough. It will take the good citizens of Chicago to say we are going to take this anymore. IL did pass a somewhat of a safe harbor law a couple of years back. It basically said that if you defended your life in your own home the local city government couldn't charge you with illegal possessing a handgun. I'm not sure what the status of that law is today. It is the one Barrack Obama voted against. It won with almost unanimous support in Springfield. It had about four votes against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rljohns View Post
    It will take the good citizens of Chicago to say we are going to take this anymore.
    I don't think Chicago has too many citizens left. Mostly subjects of King Daley.
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