May 1st, 2008 11:17 AM
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Senator Feinstein Is Opposed To Guns In Parks
Well, this is a real big surprise!
Apr 30, 6:33 PM EDT
Kempthorne proposal would ease ban on guns in national parks
By MATTHEW DALY
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne proposed new regulations Wednesday that would allow people to carry a concealed weapon in some national parks and wildlife refuges.
The new rules would allow someone to carry a loaded weapon in a park or wildlife refuge only if the person has a permit for a concealed weapon and the state where the park or refuge is located allows guns in parks, Kempthorne said.
"The safety and protection of park and refuge visitors remains a top priority for the Department of the Interior," Kempthorne said in a statement.
Park rangers, retirees and conservation groups protested the plan, saying it will lead to confusion for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.
"This is purely and simply a politically driven effort to solve a problem that doesn't exist," said Bill Wade, chairman of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees.
There is no data to suggest that the public would be served by allowing visitors to parks to possess concealed handguns, Wade and other critics said. They cited statistics showing that national parks are among the safest places in the country. The probability of becoming a victim of a violent crime in a national park is 1 in more than 708,000 - less likely than being struck by lightning, the groups said.
"This proposed regulation increases the risk to visitors, employees and wildlife rather than reducing it," Wade said.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., called the rule change confusing.
"This change makes no sense. It would create an incoherent, ineffective and inconsistent patchwork of policies," she said, noting that in some cases, rules would be different within the same national park. For example, Death Valley National Park is in both California and Nevada. California prohibits loaded and accessible weapons in state parks, while Nevada does not, Feinstein said.
"So which state law would apply at Death Valley National Park?" she said. "This sort of inconsistency would be an open invitation to poachers, would be almost impossible to enforce and would seriously place public safety at risk."
The public has 60 days to comment on the new proposal, which was published Wednesday in the Federal Register.
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May 1st, 2008 11:21 AM
How much would you bet that she doesn't visit those places without a bodyguard service? (...or her own CCW permit?)
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May 1st, 2008 11:33 AM
Neither you idiot, it is a national park. This woman just doesn't get it.
For example, Death Valley National Park is in both California and Nevada. California prohibits loaded and accessible weapons in state parks, while Nevada does not, Feinstein said.
"So which state law would apply at Death Valley National Park?" she said.
May 1st, 2008 11:34 AM
Did anyone bother to remind her that individual state laws with respect to state parks have no bearing whatsoever in a NATIONAL park.
On the other hand, why bother......? She was born an idiot and has clearly been losing ground ever since.
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Originally Posted by deadeye72
May 1st, 2008 11:58 AM
I am shock and amazed that she is against this........oh wait.......I'm lying again.........
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May 1st, 2008 12:07 PM
There is an answer. Write your Critters. both Senate and House. Be polite.
Only state that you believe the restriction should be lifted for the safety of park attendees.
There is another answer. It isn't easy, especially with "controversial" stuff like gun possession which has a minor partisan component. However, some of you probably actually know a Critter. Or you have access to one. Talk to him or her in a friendly manner about the issue.
I work on an entirely different issue which needs some legislative action. One day one of our other members discovered that his neighbor was running in a primary for a US House seat. A conversation followed, and if the man is elected he will likely help us out with our other cause.
Political action is not something you leave to the NRA or GOA, it is something you do individually too, by being an activist; by making contacts etc.
May 1st, 2008 12:29 PM
Her bodyguards probably carry submachine guns like Ted Kennedy's bodyguards do.
May 1st, 2008 12:46 PM
Does she even know what a park is...besides the position her cars shifter goes in?
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May 1st, 2008 12:47 PM
She is the poster child for "Mad Cow Disease".
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May 1st, 2008 12:52 PM
I though that the proposed rule changes spelled out that the the state laws would apply to whatever state that that portion of the park is in? She's right though, to avoid this confusion she needs to push national carry.
May 1st, 2008 01:45 PM
There; fixed the title for you...
Originally Posted by Captain Crunch
Cupcake is right, though. The proposed rules would make State Park laws apply to the National Park land in that State. I thought the same thing; unless they put up designated state borders in multi-state parks, there could be some unwitting violations of firearms laws by park visitors...
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May 1st, 2008 02:04 PM
Tell us something new.
Feinstein is opposed to the populace in general being armed. Of course she should be able to carry though.
You can't really blame her though........
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May 1st, 2008 03:21 PM
"...open invitation to poachers.."???
Exactly what animals are poached in Death Valley? I haven't been there, but I can't imagine there are alot of species there with valuable bits on any market.
May 1st, 2008 03:58 PM
How do we take back OUR sandbox? They won't let us play in it anymore..........Ted Kennedy should have been put away after that little car/drowning mishap. HE is the moral compass of America? Him and the Rev. Al......I think I fell asleep and went into a lonnngggg dream where the animals have taken over the zoo!
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May 1st, 2008 04:48 PM
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